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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on October 29, 2023 at 12:13pm

Here's the listing:

https://www.iconicauctions.com/The_Beatles_Group_Signed_8__x_10__Pu...

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Permalink Reply by Alexander Bitar on October 29, 2023 at 12:58pm

To my knowledge, there are probably 20+ fully signed Bahamas photographs, some in pretty bad condition with faded signatures. The one that Iconic Auctions sold is as perfect as it can be. The only thing I would like to change is the placement of Ringo's signature. It would be better if it didn't connect with Paul or John. But then again, still beautiful.

In 2016, I sold what I personally believe is the finest Beatles signed photo. 8x10 b/w photo of The Beatles performing live, taken by Dezo Hoffmann, signed in 1964 during their Australian tour. Big and perfect signatures, great placement, and the photo itself is amazing. Much better than the Bahamas photos. It sold for $42,500 by Heritage Auctions. Again, this was in 2016, so I got a pretty good amount.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on October 29, 2023 at 1:02pm

Thorsten said he had about 40 scans of the photo, with a few duplicated.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on October 29, 2023 at 5:03pm

Amazing! Yes, that looks even more desirable than the one just sold. 

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Permalink Reply by 1-2-3-FAW on October 29, 2023 at 1:40pm

I have 20 of these signed photos in my exampler folder, and another 5 signed by Aspinal. Not sure how many legit ones there are in total , but I'm assuming not many more than what has already been discovered to date.  I also own one , which Frank states was signed for the daughter of a crew member. You had to be part of the filming crew to receive one, so the general public was basically shut out. The OP is a rarity , being given a Grade 9 , along with a rock solid letter of provenance. All it takes is two people who really want it bad enough, and this is the result !!!

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Permalink Reply by Josh Board NEW & Improved on October 29, 2023 at 8:47pm

This is gonna kill you guys. So...that concert photo signed that is shown here -- I was at a Ringo concert and a woman next to me in the 3rd row, had a similar photo, signed by the band in blue ink (not as nice as the one in this thread, but close). Her mom worked on the Ed Sullivan Show, and she'd get signed photos of lots of the bands that played. She was a young kid then, and put them on her wall, and eventually threw them all away, except for the Beatles photo. She was under the mistaken impression it was now worth a million dollars (this was in 1990). I told her it wasn't, but an amazing photo. She wanted to show Ringo (I made it backstage, she did not). Fast forward to a year later, I see her at another concert. She has the photo with her, because she wanted to show the band the photo (not sure why she thought they'd care, as they had NOTHING to do with any Beatle). And a few years after that, at an Alansis Morsette concert, she had the photo with her. Well, guess what? At this point, it now had creases ALL over it. Like it been handled, folded, and all kinds of bad things. And when I first saw it in 1990, it was in perfect condition. What an idiot.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on October 29, 2023 at 8:55pm

I thought of this! I remembered the story.

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on October 29, 2023 at 9:53pm

Here’s another exceptionally nice SP. It sold for $25K in 2011.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on October 29, 2023 at 10:29pm

Iconic sold that one too.

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Permalink Reply by Alexander Bitar on October 30, 2023 at 4:56am

BallroomDays67 – Yep, that's one of the very best!! But like the Bahamas photo, it's a slightly boring image. I think, however, that I've seen that exact item with an inscription. To my knowledge, and I can be wrong, some restoration work was done to the item.

Here's a higher-quality image. There's something at Lennon's "o" in blue. Perhaps that was too difficult to remove.

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Permalink Reply by a pug called eva on October 30, 2023 at 11:30pm

Both the images and the autographs in the OP and in the image above leave me cold. The images because they are posed publicity shots and the autographs because they are just too perfect and lack "personality". They could even be mistaken for printed examples when looked at digitally.

Personally, I could never imagine spending $50k+ on a signed photo of anybody unless the photo was of massive historic/artistic interest or I just knew that it was totally under-priced and I was buying it with a view to selling it for a big profit at some stage.

I presume the buyer of the OP example will be locking it away in a dark safe and displaying a copy. Somewhat ironic given that the autographs could be mistaken as being printed in the first place.  

I know I'm very much in a minority in the way I see such things.

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Permalink Reply by Alexander Bitar on October 31, 2023 at 4:30am

a pug called eva I honestly haven't thought about that, but I agree they lack "personality". I think there's a possibility that the buyer would also have the photo graded and encapsulated by PSA, which would make it even less alive. I've personally always wanted clean autographs without any inscriptions, but I'm getting more and more interested in inscribed items with interesting provenance.

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