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Permalink Reply by Craiger on August 30, 2012 at 6:59am

Wondering the opinions on these two signed Neil Photos purchased on ebay recently.  Both of which failed PSA Quick opinion to my suprise, although I know from experience quick opinions are not always correct.  So I wanted  to see what some of the other experts think.  Thanks for looking.     craigerocksngemz

#1  http://www.ebay.com/itm/221116416809?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_...

 

#2  http://www.ebay.com/itm/221115600930?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_...

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Permalink Reply by Ryan Blumenthal on August 30, 2012 at 7:01am

#1 definitely looks good to me and #2 is not good, but those are just my opinions.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on August 30, 2012 at 7:10am

The first looks closer, but I don't like the slowness of the horizontal lines.

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Permalink Reply by DB on August 30, 2012 at 7:14am

if they have both failed PSA QO there is a good possibility the sales can be cancelled;

so for posterity - here is the 1st one and seller listed credentials;

 

I am a licensed Auctioneer/Appraiser in the State of Florida. 
I THANK YOU & WISH YOU GOOD LUCK IN YOUR BIDDING.
I am an autograph dealer & certified authenticator.
Former President of the International Autograph Collectors' Club/Dealer Alliance (IACC/DA), NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE IADA/CC, A "RE-MAKING" OF THE ORIGINAL IACC/DA with different members.

MANUSCRIPT SOCIETY Member in good standing 

EPHEMERA SOCIETY Member

INTERNATIONAL AUTOGRAPH COLLECTORS' CLUB CHARTER (DEALER) MEMBER.

Author of over 25 published articles on autographs & autograph collecting.
Co-author of signature studies.
Co-author of 2005/06 autograph reference book, dealing with Presidential Autographs.
All autographs guaranteed genuine to THE ORIGINAL PURCHASE.                                                  Expert witness in a NC court cased for the defendant involving a $25,000.00 signed guitar.  Defendant was VICTORIOUS!                                                                                                         

Involved in a real-life STING OPERATION with the Sheriff's Department in Southern,FL involving an autograph forger/seller.  Forger was found guilty!

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Permalink Reply by Ryan Blumenthal on August 30, 2012 at 7:17am

to be completely honest, i don't see the possibility of #1 being fake.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on August 30, 2012 at 7:59am

You may well be right. Just the horizontal lines seem off to me...mostly the lower one.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on August 30, 2012 at 8:26pm

I really wish I could access a larger scan of #1.

My sense is PSA dinged it because there is a hiccup/break in the paraph and it was not textbook perfect. The break in the paraph is not a fatal flaw if other positive indicators are present.

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Permalink Reply by DB on August 30, 2012 at 7:54am

as suspected the 1st one; This listing (221116416809) has been removed, or this item is not available.

 glad we were able to at least document it.

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Permalink Reply by DB on August 30, 2012 at 7:20am

and #2

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Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on August 30, 2012 at 8:21pm

#2 appears to be a "Spanish" forgery.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on August 30, 2012 at 7:32am

I agree with PSA QO on number 2.

I would want to study #1 very closely and would reserve judgement.

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Permalink Reply by Craiger on August 30, 2012 at 1:23pm

Hello all, thanks a lot for looking at the questionable signed photos I posted earlier.  Happy to say, I did not pay for either of them.  Looks like the quick opinions were pretty accurate.  I also scored a few Neil Armstrong 3x5 cards also on ebay.  Same thing happened with these, I did PSA quick opinions on them all and they all came back "Likely Not Genuine". I would like to see what the experts on here think.  Thanks again to all who participate in this thread!!  Ebay items below.  Thanks   craigerocksngemz

#1  http://www.ebay.com/itm/230843325871?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_...

#2  http://www.ebay.com/itm/280950099248?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_...

#3  http://www.ebay.com/itm/310427087530?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_...

#4  http://www.ebay.com/itm/180960423932?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_...

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