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Beatles signed fan club card. Did I score or get scammed?
I just bought this off of ebay about two weeks ago. I have been studying Beatles autographs for over 20 years and figured they were just about the best ones I've ever seen on a fan club card so I just got the seller to end early and sell to me. Now that I have it, it is pristine. That scares me. The ink is aged and autographs are perfect, perhaps too perfect? Back story is they were signed for a still photographer from ABC tv in NYC during Feb 64 trip. They seem to date to that period, Roger signed off on them, but I can't get Perry or Tracks to return emails regarding COAs for it. I was going to send it in to PSA/DNA but I was wondering what everyone thought on here. The back has 4 black paper marks where it was taken out of a scrapbook. Otherwise, mint condition.
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Permalink Reply by Paul on
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Cards keep well I've seen a few signed plane cards in great shape. Ringo is light on the signature.
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Permalink Reply by a pug called eva on
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I wish I had your eyes FB. I see nothing with the normal enlargement.
The signatures really are a miracle in terms of placement. John and George miss their own heads by a whisker, Ringo kindly misses John's head, and Paul misses his own head and Ringo's signature too (more or less). Like Steve says the ink is remarkably uniform too.
It's a tricky one. I would say whoever authenticates it should physically inspect it.
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Permalink Reply by FB on
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If you look above the "T" in "The Official.." you can see a little bit of the Harrison's "H." It's faint, for sure. But, if you look very carefully, you can make it out.
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Permalink Reply by Bruce Juice on
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Have you thought about sending to PSA? They inspect in person so that should help a lot. May be worth the money as I've noticed many Beatles signatures that come with a PSA cert tend to do well at certain auction houses. It eliminates a lot of collector's fears to get that cert. (Even though they are far from perfect).
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A safe bet when buying beatles would be to buy something that's been cataloged before. Any new items that emerge you need to scrutinize. I'd send this into Roger since he has been given you the all clear for a coa.
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Permalink Reply by Ryan on
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I agree. With something like this, I probably need multiple COAs. I will get one from Roger and PSA for good measure. None of the top three dealers seem to do COAs on items they're not selling anymore. That's a bummer. If this is authentic, it deserves some recognition. I've never seen a better one. Add to the fact that it was signed in NYC during the Ed Sullivan trip and its pretty awesome.
Also, its in two different pens. Ringo's is a darker blue. Is there any other COA I should go for?
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Permalink Reply by JJ on
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It seems to be close to the vintage of this one. May I please have your opinions of this?
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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on
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JJ, that's a set of Joe Long forgeries.
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Joe Long was a prolific forger starting in the 80s, best known for Beatles. The biggest, most reputable auction houses sold his stuff until Frank Caiazzo discovered him. I'm sure he's done many other names too. He mixed the good with the bad. He was still selling autographs 10 years ago, but I don't know what he was selling.
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