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Restored Beatles poster.

Here's a signed poster that I'm sure most of you guys have already seen.It was sold on rr a while back and more recently on iconic.The first picture is of the piece in its original untouched condition.the second picture is of the same piece with major restoration work to it.The owner was asking me if I was Interested in buying it.With that kind of work done to a piece such as this,should I totally pass on it.How much can this effect the value?

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 4, 2016 at 8:46pm

That looks overcooked - and more importantly it appears to hide the true condition. This is not consolidation or restoration - this is improvement IMHO and that is not for me.

I am satisfied with the "Fine" seen in so many descriptions. No bullet holes, no paintball slatter, but honest wear and even a bit of tear. I would prefer that Help LP consolidated/conserved and looking like it should. But that doesn't sell as fast or for as much. But at least you don't have to say 'well, see, it used to (actually does) look like this..."

Eric

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Permalink Reply by Paul on February 4, 2016 at 8:50pm

I agree with the covering of the doodle was an amateur mistake regardless who drew the doodle.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 4, 2016 at 10:49pm

I have no doubt which one will sell faster and for more - just not to me.

Eric

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 4, 2016 at 10:58pm

Wonder what we don't know...might crop up in 7 years and say "surprise"...

Eric

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Permalink Reply by sling on February 4, 2016 at 10:30pm

what do you mean by consolidated?

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 4, 2016 at 10:53pm

Hi Sling,

Consolidation: During work/repair/restoration/enhancement on various types of supports and materials layers can undergo different stresses during the drying/ageing process (short and long term). Various types of cracking, crazing, and volume changes can occur leaving the various films and repairs unstable, resulting in paint lifting, flaking and ultimately more serious problems. Layers can often become de-stabilized with traumatic shock or even slight/moderate changes in humidity and temperature.

Consolidation involves physically stabilizing the work of art to ensure future stability, no future losses, and ensures that any further treatment procedures can be carried out safely.

The treatment sometimes involves introducing a suitable adhesive that will adhere loose, cracking, flaking paint to the picture support. Sometimes an entire new support is used - such as linen.

Eric

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Permalink Reply by sling on February 5, 2016 at 8:22am

man, expert restorer are in a sophisticated profession

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Permalink Reply by Paul on February 4, 2016 at 8:42pm

The restoration of Beatles items has turned me off buying them.Perry was selling a restored 45 single where the signatures had been touched up.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 4, 2016 at 9:22pm

What about stability of the materials employed???Funny things can happen with odd materials newly married.

All items like this should have fully detailed written descriptions of the work/enhancement - if one was going to put a sticky sticker on something this would be the time I find it most acceptable.

Eric

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 4, 2016 at 9:46pm

Really wondering about the stability here. Materials age differently - some of these had a head start. I'm sure every precaution was taken, or not (that look like enhancement to me so bets off), but I don't think this work is guaranteed? A slight change in the appearance of a doctored slabbed coin can be disastrous.

Eric