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Authenticity is Everything
ENOUGH WITH THE BOB DYLAN
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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on
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I agree it's a bit much and perhaps foreseeable, but it is a relevant topic to a chunk of the group. We can't stop conversations that are unfolding.
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Permalink Reply by Nick Dimeo on
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+1. New topics on autographs are quickly being relegated to the outskirts, but it’s understandable that people need to vent.
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Permalink Reply by Stepeanut on
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Bobby, is that you?
Let me ask you one question: is your money that good?
Will it buy you forgiveness?
Do you think that it could?(Okay, that’s four questions.)
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Well I don't have a seat at this table as I did not order a copy but I understand the significance of the event if it turns out that peoples' worst fears ARE actually realized. It would be a shocking scandal and if people can't vent here then where?
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Permalink Reply by JMS1223 on
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It’s been confirmed they are autopen. At least three matching patterns found. Probably at least ten different patterns used all together. It’s a very big deal because they sold these under false pretenses saying they were authentic hand signed by Bob Dylan and charging $600. They even included a letter to try to deceive people into buying these after the ones sold in Canada were found to be autopen. So yeah, this is a big deal. Fraud.
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Permalink Reply by Yony Mark on
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As much as it is a sad event, I'm all for people talking about it. This hobby is dangerous enough as it is, and the title of this website says "Authenticity is Everything",
if a reputable store sells a fake autograph / autopen autograph for tons of cash and says its real, where else can we talk about this outrage?
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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on
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Steve Grad from Beckett Authentication Service was talking about it on something called Twitter.
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Permalink Reply by Steve on
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It is absolutely shocking to me that a well known company would spend the time, in advance, to create 13 different autopen plates to make it appear that the signatures are different! This was all with the intention of defrauding the public.
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Agreed.
In that spirit, however, I wonder whether we should pause, for a moment, to evaluate how likely it is that Dylan himself would have any knowledge of this debacle.
I mean, he is in his 80's now. Was he commissioned to write the book or was it an unexpected submission offered for auction? Does anyone know? Does he even remember writing it (sorry - that is totally ageist but devil's advocate and all that).
Why on earth would someone with nothing left to prove, a Nobel Laureate, one of the greatest songwriters of all time, why would someone like this risk his reputation and legacy - and he doesn't have much left to lose other than the latter, for the sake of his share in a $600k scam - which is not likely to be more than 10%. - probably a lot less.
It makes no sense at all.
I'm giving Dylan a pass on this. It's down to his people and the publishers.
But I will happily sue the f$cker for the return of my $100 or so concert ticket 4 or 5 years ago due to it being the worst gig I ever attended. If anyone is interested in a class action suit for his sh#tty concert performances, I am all in.
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