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Fay Wray

Has anyone seen an “F” like this in her signature before? I’ve done an extensive search and can’t find one. Apart from that I think the rest looks okay. What do you guys think? Thanks!

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Permalink Reply by beardog1 on May 30, 2021 at 2:06pm

Hi Greg. I looked at many exemplars when trying to evaluate authenticity of a Fay Wray signature in my collection. I do not have specific experience with her signature and am just a casual collector so take my comments with a grain of salt.

As you comment, the overall signature looks right to me but I have not seen an "F" like this either. However, the general flow looks fairly typical. I have seen her make the top of the "F" look like a capital cursive "N" but this has more spread. The triangular connection on the bottom of the "F" to the cross stroke seems very uncommon. However, my overall sense is this is authentic despite the atypical "F".

Hopefully, others with more knowledge will share their opinions but wanted to share what I observed FWIW.

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Permalink Reply by David Lewis on May 30, 2021 at 8:17pm

Greg, I agree with beardog1, this looks good, in my humble opinion.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on May 30, 2021 at 8:38pm

To me it looks like a simulation. The loops are quite different than what David showed and it is on a Kong photo so extra care must be applied - Kong is a best case scenario for this signature and likely the most forged.

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Permalink Reply by David Lewis on May 30, 2021 at 8:45pm

Eric, I am looking how the name connects, My old eyes could be deceptive.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on May 30, 2021 at 8:49pm

Hi David,

The exemplars show an assured fluidity lacking in the OP. It's like a soup - mostly correct ingredients but wrong flavor IMO.

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Permalink Reply by David Lewis on May 30, 2021 at 9:10pm

Eric, As you are only looking for a real autograph, as am I, the soup depends old the amount of salt and pepper. Still looking at the construction of the autograph..shape or size, early or late.

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Permalink Reply by Greg on May 31, 2021 at 10:06am

I was able to find an example of a signed book...here she perhaps almost makes the attempt at the continuous F at the bottom? My thought on the OP is, why would a forger make such an odd attempt at this type of F when it’s just not her ‘usual’ style? I think she was perhaps in a hurry and also had limited room in that space, hence the unique F?

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on May 31, 2021 at 10:12am

I'm looking at the whole thing - seems a simulation. Look at the "r"...

Exemplars share an assured and easy quality lacking in the OP which appears clipped in staccato.

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Permalink Reply by Greg on May 31, 2021 at 8:31pm

Okay, so here are two more from the same seller, being sold from the same collection, presumably obtained in the 80s. Do they appear to be done in the same hand as the OP? In the color image, the R starts higher than the W like in the OP (which almost never occurs), but is at least better formed. In the second signature, the baseline is not as straight as it usually is. So, what are your thoughts on these two?