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Permalink Reply by CJCollector on January 11, 2015 at 10:33am

Koschal conspiring with Chris "I Never Saw An Autograph I Didn't Like" Morales.

I think that says it all.

Makes you wonder if "anyone" else over there did the same thing.

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Permalink Reply by A.B. on January 9, 2015 at 1:50am

I completely agree with Steve

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Permalink Reply by michelle on January 9, 2015 at 6:50am

+300

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Permalink Reply by Pete Bendu on January 9, 2015 at 5:04am

Steve,

 I wasn't ganging up on Mike. In fact it was Mike that brought up all the false affidavits, False provenance, false facts, fake COA's, stickers, photoshop images, laser printed autographs, that TPA's have to deal with. Then he went on to talk about the newest technologies used to forge autographs. 

I don't know Mike, and I have never used his service, but being a TPA, doesn't that mean you stay on top of all this and make the call based on the autograph itself?

Complaining about how difficult your job is, does not make the issues any easier to swallow. Any collector out there can listen to the provenance and facts offered by a seller and choose to believe them or not.  A collector uses a TPA to have a trusted opinion on the signature, just the signature alone....not the stories that come with it.    

I wish nothing but the best to anyone who is fighting the good fight and keeping the forgeries out of the hands of untrained collectors. Whining about how hard your life is and screaming about all the facts not being "out there" when you made a mistake ....is just deflection. 

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Permalink Reply by Michael Frost on January 9, 2015 at 6:07am

Pete,

I am sorry you understood my comments as Whining or complaining. I love what I do and I have been doing it for over 30 years now. It is very hard to explain in a few lines on a blog what has been going on in the past few years and what has been uncovered alone in the past few months.

On most autographs you can surely make a call 100% based upon the signature alone but their are cases were I am sorry but investigation and provenance does take it role.

This is a full time job and yes I stay on top of new technology, that is how WE were able to stop this dead in its tracks along with over 6 auctions in the past year.

When you expose the fraud you are attacked , there are now complete websites owned and operated by forgers and companies / auction houses that deal in forged autographs. Their agenda is based upon discrediting honest and reputable autograph authenticators and third party autograph authentication companies.  
   Remember TPA are taking tons of money out of their mouths, and when the forgeries are exposed they will go to any extreme to save their business including personal attacks on the the TPA's personal life's and their family. I can show cases where life's and family members life's have been jeopardized by these crews of forgers.

With all that being said I think what went on here on this honest, reputable and collector friendly website against in my opinion the best, most knowledgeable, most helpful Rock and Roll & Music Autograph Authenticator in the world today Roger Epperson was a travesty. He has been attacked from what should be his honnored, where he has spent countless hours helping collectors on his own dime.

Not only has he had to read the countless post from the forgery side of the industry, his own home base formed a lynch mob. 

Believe me Roger Epperson is much more important to this website and to the safety of the whole autograph industry then anyone here will ever know.  

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Permalink Reply by Michael Frost on January 9, 2015 at 7:29am

+1000

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Permalink Reply by Barry S on January 9, 2015 at 7:45am

I totally agree Michael.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on January 10, 2015 at 12:17pm

I couldn't agree more about Roger.

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Permalink Reply by CJCollector on January 10, 2015 at 12:24pm

+1

I will continue to expose sellers of forgeries, but won't be opining nearly as much due to the lynch-mob attitude that I have observed here.

The bad guys can "authenticate" thousands of forgeries and they aren't attacked as much as Roger has been been.

The good guys make an honest mistake here and there, and the lynch-mob rides into town.

These are the same people, who, for the most part, don't even use their real names.

Shameful.

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Permalink Reply by A.B. on January 10, 2015 at 12:26pm

+1

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Permalink Reply by Chad B on January 10, 2015 at 12:46pm

All,
Can we summarize the events of the previous 46 pages here as it regards to the Jackson signatures? I think it would be helpful to lay the facts and details here without being rude or off topic. Someone more involved than I can certainly do a better job than I but I'll note a few highlights.
-collectors have noticed many pieces of signed Jackson artwork flood the market.
-Wascher and others took up the challenge of researching the items
-it is determined many of the items contain forged signatures, traced artwork, and artwork of a style and quality not consistent with that of Michael Jackson
-Roger Epperson was found to have authenticated a large number of the items and wrote how he was very confident with them while other authenticators and collectors disagreed strongly
What are the other main highlights here?

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Permalink Reply by wascher on January 11, 2015 at 4:09am

Chad its not just artwork though and that should be mentioned.

We still don't have all of the facts put together fully (all the real names of all the players) so its kind of hard to write a summary up, as facts seem to twist and change and no longer become "facts".   We're dealing with forgers who have been writing/making fake COA's for awhile now to go along with "MJ" autographs, and what we once may have thought was a fact - really might not be.  (COA's & stories that aren't really legit etc)

-w

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