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Michael Jackson Signing Styles in Julien's Tompkins and Bush Sale

On December 2, Julien's Auctions is selling The Collection of Tompkins and Bush. The collection contains 465 lots of Michael Jackson memorabilia, 287 of them autographed.

Michael Bush and the late Dennis Tompkins were Michael Jackson's costume designers for 25 years, during Jackson's most successful period. They were the consignors of the signed Thriller jacket that Julien's sold for $1,800,000 in June 2011.

Almost all of the autographs in the Tompkins and Bush sale are a variation I'm not familiar with. I've only been looking at Jackson's autograph for a few years, though, and we have members here who have collected him for decades, so I'd appreciate your input and exemplars.

If you know Michael Jackson's autograph well, please look at a few images below from the auction and let me know what you think. Even better, browse the auction and upload any similar examples you have: http://www.julienslive.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/77/

Julien's is the world's premier auction house for Michael Jackson memorabilia, so they would know his autograph better than most of us. I'm just surprised I haven't seen this style before.

Thanks for your help.

Tags: 2012, Julien's, auction, michael jackson, tompkins and bush

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Permalink Reply by MICHELLE JAY on November 23, 2012 at 10:22pm
This is all excellent contact information. Can you put it all together in a TwitLonger and Facebook posting and tweet and post it so everyone can act! There are ONLY 5 business days left to STOP the
Auction!!!
Permalink Reply by BreakOfDawn on November 23, 2012 at 9:29pm
FBI Los Angeles
Suite 1700, FOB
11000 Wilshire Boulevard
Los Angeles, California 90024-3672
losangeles.fbi.gov
(310) 477-6565
Permalink Reply by BreakOfDawn on November 23, 2012 at 9:43pm
Better Business Bureau
BBB of the Southland, Inc.
Serving Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside, and San Bernardino Counties

315 North La Cadena Drive
Colton, CA 92324

Phone: (909) 825-7280

Fax: (909) 503-1890
Permalink Reply by BreakOfDawn on November 23, 2012 at 9:57pm
LAPD FORGERY & FRAUD SECTION:

Fraud Section
150 N. Los Angeles St., Room 340
Los Angeles, California 90012
Telephone: 213-486-6630
Fax: 213-680-1424
Permalink Reply by BreakOfDawn on November 23, 2012 at 9:59pm
Metropolitan Forgery Section
100 W. First Street Room 302
Los Angeles, California 90012
Telephone: 213-485-4131
Fax: 213-680-1424
Permalink Reply by sling on November 24, 2012 at 5:31pm

Calif Government org overseeing and licensing auction houses

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on November 23, 2012 at 10:07pm

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Permalink Reply by Charlotte Stanley on November 24, 2012 at 9:22am

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Permalink Reply by BreakOfDawn on November 23, 2012 at 10:09pm
http://www.shouselaw.com/forgery.html

1. What is "Forgery" under California Law?
In California, forgery is a type of fraud that is considered both a "white collar" crime and a theft crime. Although most people think of forgery as simply "signing someone else's name", the offense of forgery is actually much more comprehensive.

Forgery occurs when you intend to commit a fraud and:


Sign someone else's name without authorization,


Counterfeit or recreate the seal or handwriting of another without prior approval,


Alter, corrupt, or falsify specific legal written documents, such as a will or court record, and/or


Falsely make, alter, recreate, counterfeit, utter, or publish


Any document or item relating to money, stocks, a sale, transfer, or exchange of goods or property,


Any written document relating to how one intends to dispose of his/her property upon death,


A legal document other than a will or court record (a power of attorney, for example), or


A notarized document.

Just to clarify, the words "utter and publish" mean the same thing. They mean to use or attempt to use an instrument or document either to (1) assert that it is genuine, or (2) represent to someone else that it is genuine.

California forgery law only applies to acts that prejudice, damage, or defraud another out of:


Money,


An interest in property, and/or


Other legal rights.
Permalink Reply by sling on November 24, 2012 at 5:34pm

It is possible under Calif law that this is an auction problem overseen by the auction commision rather than a forgery crime which is handled by a different state agency

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Permalink Reply by BreakOfDawn on November 23, 2012 at 10:38pm
Michelle, I didn't misunderstand.
Michael used to write 1998 after his signature for years BEFORE his kids were born.
He was saying to me he used to do that because it was the year he wanted to have children...and he did have his children very near around 1998, so it makes perfect sense.

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