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Paul & Ringo Signed CD's

Any thoughts on these signed CD's off eBay?

Tags: 03855, 84205494, A71878, A71907, A71908, A78561, AE01730, AE01731, AE01732, AE01733, More…

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Permalink Reply by Paul on August 20, 2019 at 6:09am

Authenticating graphs today isn't like the old in the post mod pop culture easily identified. These days people need to follow auctions , trends to point out the forgers. Even then they still can't keep them from bs!

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on August 20, 2019 at 11:25am

Thanks, Joe. I totally agree with your thoughts regarding the respected Beatles experts. I see this as being somewhat of an anomaly. Obviously, I’m not in the same league as those experts, but what Paul said is correct. Following the auctions over time can give you a big advantage in uncovering these things.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on August 20, 2019 at 12:24pm

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on August 20, 2019 at 11:18am

What is happening is both the best and the worst aspects of autograph collecting. Open discussions on specific autographs, especially with examples, is a wonderful way of defining what is likely genuine or not. Ballroom and Eric have done that superbly in this discussion. That allows a collector to learn more deeply on the subject at hand and assists them in making more accurate determinations in the future.

Pitting one authentication service versus another is counterproductive and hurts the overall perception of the hobby. Eating each other up only clouds the issue further. No winners except for the bad guys.

No one should put absolute trust in anyone's opinion without independent verification. Each collector has their own acceptable level of "risk" when making a personal decision to purchase. Trust and verify.

The only way to collect autographs properly is to look at hundreds of examples over time. Nothing beats hands on experience. Any expectation of being perfect is delusional and will eventually lead to bitterness and disappointment.

As with life, one must handle the victories and defeats as a learning experience and move on. Good people make mistakes. Do what you think is right. And, sometimes, agree to disagree is the best solution.

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Permalink Reply by Daniel Alayof on August 21, 2019 at 5:14am

What do you think about this Ringo? Please notice: the G is high and tilted. The i also has a right tilt. However, the R looks good, the O looks good, the dot above the i looks good

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on August 21, 2019 at 8:45am

It looks great to me.

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Permalink Reply by Daniel Alayof on August 21, 2019 at 9:23am

Yea, it looks good, but it shows that sometimes Ringo signed with high and tilted G

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on August 21, 2019 at 11:09am

Have you found any authentic examples that display the "i", "n", baseline and the rest mentioned that seem to place your Ringo on the right? The left column has at least one high "g". How did you interpret the scans posted and the patterns highlighted? I am surprised the thread went so many pages talking about names and not ink.

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Permalink Reply by Daniel Alayof on August 21, 2019 at 11:41am

No, I haven't. The left column has one high "g" But! the lower part of the "g" is long. On the right column they all have high "g" and most of them have short lower part "g" (like the above example). It seems that on the right column the length of the upper part of the "g" is almost equal to the length of the lower part of the "g" (like in the above example).