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Permalink Reply by James on December 29, 2016 at 8:48pm

Here's a closer look.

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Permalink Reply by Rich on December 29, 2016 at 9:31pm

For a sec I thought it might be for the card overall, but then I saw "Auto Grade Only." Yeah, that's pretty bad.

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Permalink Reply by James on December 29, 2016 at 9:53pm

That's exactly what I thought when I first saw it. And if the autograph is real, I wonder why Daisy wouldn't have signed in the lighter area of the card. Forgers sometimes try to confuse people by signing in the dark part of an item. But PSA has ok'd it, but I'm wondering how any autograph that is this hard to see could be a 10.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on December 29, 2016 at 10:07pm

10?

MINT 9: Mint. A PSA Mint 9 is a superb condition autograph that exhibits only one of the following minor flaws: A very light skip (almost unrecognizable to the naked eye), a slight acceptable variance in boldness of the autograph (still very bold and clearly readable - even at arms length - but perhaps not quite as bold as an autograph that would qualify for a PSA Gem Mint 10) or a some other aesthetic issue such as undesirable location if the location of the autograph hinders the eye-appeal of the autograph, slightly, in some way.

NM7:...Any other aesthetic flaw that may hinder the eye-appeal may be allowable. For example, an autograph that extends more noticeably into an undesirable area of a photo such as a darkened background.

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Permalink Reply by James on December 29, 2016 at 10:17pm

Bingo!

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Permalink Reply by James on December 29, 2016 at 10:35pm

The seller is offering it for $349 or Best Offer. The seller, imo, is going to have a very difficult time selling this. I can't imagine anyone paying more than $50 for this because the autograph is so hard to see.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on December 30, 2016 at 5:01am

Hopefully this can put the bed the whole absurd notion of grading autographs. If this is a "10," then "10" means nothing.

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on December 30, 2016 at 5:26am

Interesting. Not sure how the secure the encapsulation really is. For instance, I have purchased encapsulated PSA signed index cards to mat with a photo. They are easy enough to open and, if I was of such a mind, could put a different card in there. I wouldn't do that cause I keep the label with my matted piece. But....maybe this could happen. A possibility on this one?

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Permalink Reply by TradeGeek on December 30, 2016 at 11:11am

That can happen, but the slab would show sings that it was altered. The older PSA holders from the 1990s/early 2000s are very susceptible to this. This being a recent slab I don't see any signs of tampering (certain points on the holder will no longer be transparent). Typically, the scamers choose older slabs with high end vintage cards, remove the original and substitute a convincing counterfeit. I don't think that is the case in this instance. 

It is, however, utterly laughable that they would grade that autograph a 10. But I don't understand the whole autograph grading thing anyway. 

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Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on December 30, 2016 at 5:30am

The other consideration is this is signed first name only. If that is a 10... theoretically the highest rating...

Then what would a perfect full name signature score?

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Permalink Reply by Paul on December 30, 2016 at 10:47am

We all know it's who you know in the industry, how much business you give certain tpa's will buy you a 10.

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Permalink Reply by TradeGeek on December 30, 2016 at 11:22am

I don't get autograph grading. I have really never noticed any rhyme or reason to it. In my experience, PSA does a reasonably good job grading cards on condition. Fundamentally, grading is about eye appeal first, subtle condition details second. A card might still get a reasonably high grade if a small defect is not prominent (a print dot on the back of the card for instance).

That card has ZERO eye appeal. NONE. You'd have to hold sideways in the light to even make out the autograph. I wouldn't pay $20 for that card, even If I was 100% sure it was authentic. 

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