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Permalink Reply by Steve on January 2, 2015 at 4:50pm

Chris, you are 100% correct.

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Permalink Reply by Mike T on December 31, 2014 at 6:22am

Playing devils advocate here.. The thread was started because of authenticity concerns over atypical pink Floyd signatures, the asking price had nothing to do with it. At least that's what I saw.

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Permalink Reply by N.Steiger on December 31, 2014 at 11:30am

Thanks Mike.

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Permalink Reply by N.Steiger on December 31, 2014 at 11:29am

Steve, this threat was not posted to discredit Bob or his values as a seller. He is doing the right thing. But Bob is really upset that a third party is questioning his third parties authentication. Again, no one here is saying Bob is doing anything wrong, he is all bent out of shape on this one.

This site has contentiously pointed pointed out the mistake of authenticators, PSA, JSA, and even our own Roger Epperson on rare occasions and will continue to do so and the second the community does care anymore to bother we all might as well throw in the towel.

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Permalink Reply by Richard on January 2, 2015 at 10:21am

wait a second ........a few weeks ago I asked Roger if he ever sold a bad item before and was crucified on this forum, you are coming right out and stating that his authentication is incorrect ........ am I wrong ? Why such the double standards here ?

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Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on December 31, 2014 at 5:50am

I have no opinion on the signatures, but it would be nice to see these types of issues handled a but more diplomatically and in a way that does not damage a seller who appears to making efforts to offer authentic material. Reputations are everything in this business and people should be more careful about the harm they can do.

I'm not saying items should not be questioned, but there is a right way and a wrong way to do it.

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Permalink Reply by CJCollector on December 31, 2014 at 6:15am

The other point I want to make is if there is an autograph you really want, study it and be patient about purchasing it.

There's a good chance that sometime in the future you will be able to buy that autograph(s) at a great price.

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Permalink Reply by Full Time Flipper on December 31, 2014 at 7:07am

Rogers coa,s when he does them for RR auction are usually linked to the auction and include a description ,the lot number and the auction date/description so some sellers if trying to get a much higher price dont use them as they immediately alert the potential buyer to the initial purchase price  which can be offputting if your thinking of spending a lot of cash on your dream autograph  

i believe this is possibly the reason why Rogers coa wasnt used in the listing and a second coa obtained

nothing fishy, not a crime just business    

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Permalink Reply by Mike T on December 31, 2014 at 9:26am

I might go against the grain here, but when anyone tries to dress an item up as something it's not and sell it for 3-4 times the price, they are discounted as shady and even sometimes fraudulent. Why does that logic not apply here?

Based on the way this seller presents his items, I would never purchase anything from him.

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Permalink Reply by Seleznev Dmitri on December 31, 2014 at 9:39am

You said exactly what didn't dare...

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Permalink Reply by Full Time Flipper on December 31, 2014 at 10:19am

i dont agree with Steve to me this isnt a good guy that we need more of and i think there is a place on the site for discussion,it also opens up the question of should members here disclose if they are dealers /e bay autograph sellers as some discussions clearly have hidden agendas ,i hate this kind of speculative selling most auction house wins now go to dealers there are four or five big e bay sellers doing it with stupid prices that real collectors wont pay ,half of the recent sales are dealer to dealer its just pushing up prices for fans,at some point the circle has to break as they all have to really sell something eventually

however when it all boils down the items are likely genuine and they come from reliable sources , the guy shouldnt be knocked for that,  which i suppose is the main concern  

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Permalink Reply by N.Steiger on December 31, 2014 at 12:03pm

I know, half of the stuff on RR goes right to ebay at double the price lol. Hey, if people are dumb enough to pay it.... I just wonder by those people sell through RR to begin with if you can get more one ebay.

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