"Sam, I don't care what year they were signed, they are bad forgeries! They in no way, shape or form they match those authenic by the Stones. If you or anybody doesn't believe me, check in the upper right box where…"
"There is no way these examples are authentic. In fact, they are the worst examples of Stones signatures I have ever seen. They are legible, yes and nicely written but they cannot possibly be real, ask Roger Epperson. I know because…"
"Here is what I noticed:
The photograph is rather vague, however, clear enough to see. It looks like someone tried to copy their latest signature(s) on an album supposedly signed back in 1967. Back then, Roger, Pete, John &…"
"Brian, go to the upper right box where it says "search autograph live," and type jack Bruce. There will be various signatures of Jack's. Mine is there somewhere. You will also see many others as well,…"
"Hello! I am only in my 3rd year collecting autographs, I do, in, fact own Ginger Baker & Jack Bruce autographs. And, based on what I see here, these appear to be fake! Sorry. However, there are more collectors…"
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What brings you to Autograph Live?
I wanted to authenticate my collectibles by the persons on autographs live because I hear they are very good people here and wanted their opinions and to meet them.
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Tell us more about your collection, specific areas of interest, etc.:
I have about 53 or more items ,ie. albums and photos that are signed by rock n roll musicians like: Robert Plant, John Paul Jones and Steve Winwood, Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Ian Anderson, Roger Daltry, Pete Townshend, Mick Taylor,Ian Gillan, Brian Jones, Jack Bruce and more!
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What is your favorite autograph in your collection?
Hard to say, out of the albums I'd have to cherish the "Houses of the Holy" album signed by Robert Plant and John Paul Jones.
Why do you collect?
All my life I was interested in preserving things that I bought and autographs are esp. something I would cherish.
You can ask anyone living or dead for their autograph. Who would it be?
You wrote that the seller said "Basically he says the auctions would never give details to anyone. They never do it, it's against policy."
And, "That's just how it is they have rules, you never know the lady may have died & it may be her children who consigned it. It could have been found in her belongings, there are a thousand reasons why it may have been put there; we will never know."
Is he even answering the question you asked? Why can't you even know which auction house it was? How(why) is seller "protecting himself" as you say he said, by refusing to say even what auction house it was from?
It still concerns me that the addresses and info on those photocopied auction "proof" papers was crossed out in ink by the seller. That prevents you from easily confirming the signature was connected to the copy auction papers. He won't even tell you what auction house? And the exorbitant fee he was saying you'd have to pay to return - $180 to send a slip of paper to the UK? I do not often listen to everything sellers say, but some thing stick out. You could ask the room about his behavior. You said you thought he was trying to rip your brother off. I suspect for many collectors, this would be enough to warrant a return of most anything. His behavior seems very unusual to me. I'd like to know why. I would post this information in your Jones thread and see what other collectors think - ask how they might react to such information.
I saw your comment - 52 years old is your oldest. Which autograph is that? I would have to think about my answer - offhand I know my signed log from Mauritania's Captain is 1906...signed Nelson Dawson lithograph 1914...my earliest photographs are signed 1906 so that's probably about it. I think...