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Permalink Reply by marc e on March 27, 2017 at 10:11pm

nope but if your a true in person person  u might understand it .very few will but it was a big trick that work starting mid 90's.

and still works great today.

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on March 27, 2017 at 10:22pm

Hiding the pickguard's edges so the artist thinks they're signing paper?

Permalink Reply by marc e on March 27, 2017 at 10:24pm

kinda close 

but  more elborate .

it envolves a framer and other stuff but works great

Permalink Reply by Mr. Steffman on March 28, 2017 at 5:11am

Hiddens are effective, but less and less so. Most legends I can think of are aware of them as of about a decade ago.

Sometimes they rip them apart when you present the mat. Then they snap the pickguard in half and throw it at you while screaming in anger.

Or maybe that's just certain bluesmen.

Conversations amongst graphers typically go like this:

Grapher 1: I want him on some guards.
Grapher 2. He doesn't do them.
Grapher 1: I'll box 'em up.
Grapher 2: Nah, he knows.
Grapher 1: *disappointed*

I like Steve's idea better.

Waterboarding! It's proven to be effective and will be until the end of time.

Permalink Reply by Mr. Steffman on March 24, 2017 at 5:00pm

Attached is an example of the guitarist for the Beastie Boys (Ad-Rock) signing a load of Strat pickguards for one of the Autograph Pros staff members. I've been witnessed this happening for almost 20 years straight.

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Permalink Reply by a pug called eva on March 24, 2017 at 10:46pm

I my humble opinion these pickguards are a massive yawn even if real. The photo of the Beastie Boy signing a whole load just for a dealer to sell on is an absolute turn-off.

I wouldn't even want a signed guitar body (or any other instrument for that matter) unless the instrument was actually used by the signer. Otherwise it is really no better than a signed piece of paper. You could say it makes more of a statement but I would see it more as a hard-to-display dust trap.

Permalink Reply by Xwiesy on March 24, 2017 at 11:29pm

Eva, please get some signed guitar bodies and then sell them to me for the price of a signed piece of paper. Deal!

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on March 25, 2017 at 12:12am

Agreed. It is a grab, like certain 11x14 photos just produced because of the size, grainy cropped quality be damned. Evidence of this is the cheapo guitars being "signed". Right handed bass for Paul? What is the attraction there? Other evidence? Some of these guards are not even the right shape. 

Permalink Reply by Richard Steele on March 24, 2017 at 11:23pm

No offense to a pug called eva but that is retarded!

Permalink Reply by a pug called eva on March 25, 2017 at 12:22am

I will leave others to take a view on your choice of words Richard, but I was just expressing my opinion on signed objects that the signer has no direct connection with. I can see why an instrument signed by a musician would most likely be worth more than a signed piece of paper to most people (more "eye appeal" etc.) but if it isn't an instrument that he or she has actually played it isn't worth more to me personally. For me, it is like an actor or actress signing a copy script, film can, clapperboard or movie poster relating to a movie he or she doesn't appear in. 

Permalink Reply by Mr. Steffman on March 27, 2017 at 10:08pm

People like different things. There is an old collector in NYC who collects everyone, no matter who, on tiny bowling pins.

I think that is uniquely personal, and awesome.

As for what sellers choose to get signed, they will follow the money.

Permalink Reply by GraphingMlb on March 25, 2017 at 12:52am

Sometimes a cigar is a cigar...

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