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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on August 2, 2017 at 8:10am

I agree, they look concerning, the DiMaggio most of all, but I'm not familiar with examples of their autographs from the last few years of their lives. Are you?

If any members can help, please do.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on August 2, 2017 at 9:51am

Bear in mind that these signatures are on a 16x20 photo. Signatures sometimes get a bit distorted when a signer is signing "bigger" than typical.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on August 2, 2017 at 9:55am

Good point, Steve. I didn't look at the size. They aren't clearly bad to me, but I also understand why IIG is concerned.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on August 2, 2017 at 9:58am

Certainly not prime examples, but I think PSA and JSA got it right.

Not all authentic autographs are created equal. :-)

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Permalink Reply by Invest_In_Graphs on August 2, 2017 at 10:12am

Can anyone find a "Ted" that looks that way? Size doesn't affect these because they signed thousands of 16x20s. Ali may be fine, but DiMaggio is a bit off unless it was one of the "Deathbed" varieties (if you don't know about the "Deathbed Balls", look into it) and Ted is horrible, even for a post-stroke version. I thought this photo would be a good for a laugh. Does anyone else see what I mean?

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Permalink Reply by Woody2Shoes on August 2, 2017 at 10:53am

Yes, I do see it and your concerns do not seem frivolous to me. And of course, taking into account that being a major auction house does give them a blanket sway and a nod factor on iffy pieces that otherwise would not be readily green lighted.

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Permalink Reply by CJCollector on August 2, 2017 at 2:42pm

The DiMaggio is definitely authentic.

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Permalink Reply by Ian Baldock on August 2, 2017 at 3:20pm

The Ted looks strange to me.

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on August 2, 2017 at 3:36pm

the whole thing looks strange to me.  If I saw that Dimaggio alone, I could stretch the limits and say it could be authentic, but with the crappy Williams next to it, I question the entire piece.  But that is just an opinion.  I certainly wouldnt want it in my collection, I don't care who authenticated it.

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Permalink Reply by Ian Baldock on August 2, 2017 at 5:54pm

I'm not that familiar with later Joe D's but I don't see a letter in that Williams that I like!

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Permalink Reply by Woody2Shoes on August 2, 2017 at 7:11pm

This.  +1   I agree with Terrier and Ian. Stand alone, the Joe D., not that bad. But next to that Ted Williams from an alternate reality, the whole thing appears strange.

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Permalink Reply by Invest_In_Graphs on August 2, 2017 at 7:14pm

And me.

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