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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on September 18, 2018 at 9:37am

Unfortunately, Roger is absolutely correct. These are very poor forgeries.

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Permalink Reply by Darrin Heinrich on September 18, 2018 at 9:41am

What makes them poor though? I have compared a lot of authenticated ones and they look similar. The ones currently on eBay are poor, lol

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on September 18, 2018 at 9:46am

What makes them poor is the extent to which they differ from authentic Beatles autographs. There are very good forgeries out there, but these are obviously bad.

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on September 18, 2018 at 3:01pm

forgeries are intended to look like authentic signatures.  That is how they fool the novice collector. These are not good forgeries, they are very easy to spot.

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Permalink Reply by CJCollector on September 18, 2018 at 5:02pm

Terrier is right on and I have written this hundreds of times.

You wrote " I have done a lot of research and comparatives and they look legit to me from their styles."

Unless you have done some very extensive studying of autographs, forgeries will always have the appearance of looking authentic.

That's why the forgery industry is so huge.  80% of those who buy autographs, purchase forgeries and the scammers use it to their advantage.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on September 18, 2018 at 5:10pm

+1 If I can't see it myself, I don't buy it. Education and experience are key, and can be free as well.

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Permalink Reply by CJCollector on September 18, 2018 at 5:35pm

So true, Eric.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 18, 2018 at 9:48am

I hate to say it but Roger's right again. Ballroom, too. I'm sorry to say that these were definitely not signed by the Beatles in my opinion.

I don't know probate law, but if his estate or a trust haven't been closed, you may have a chance of getting a refund. It won't be easy.

What are the details of the purchase? Do you receipts or any authentication papers or COAs that came with it?

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Permalink Reply by Darrin Heinrich on September 18, 2018 at 9:52am

Thank you both for your opinions, it is appreciated! I just have to be sure before deciding what to do with it. I didn't buy, it was among my fathers belongings when he passed away so I inherited it, didn't pay for anything. Now I am just trying to see if it is authentic, but it is sounding more and more like not.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on September 18, 2018 at 9:55am

Darrin,

One sign that you probably will be able to tell, even not knowing their autographs well, is that Paul McCartney's autograph on yours has a distinct right slant, but he is lefthanded. 

What you're going through happens far too often.

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Permalink Reply by fab432 on September 18, 2018 at 10:10am

As already indicated the signatures are most assuredly not genuine.  If you look closely you will notice that the signatures were written “very carefully” to ensure they could get close to the real thing. This lack of flow inherent in a natural signature is a sure sign of a forgery. Hopefully your father did not pay too much for this item.  

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Permalink Reply by goodcat on September 18, 2018 at 10:40am

The fact that I am going to comment on these is a clear indication that these are not authentic

Several members here are very knowledgeable about Beatles signatures and have studied for years.....  I only flirt with them and I can see right away that these are forgeries

Just keep it as a reminder of fond memories, but don't waste any money trying to get these authenticated. It will be a losing battle.

Plus, I'm quite sure there will be several other members commenting here and you will see the overwhelming decision who side with Epperson's opinion. 

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