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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on January 10, 2019 at 2:32pm

I think we discussed this one in an earlier discussion. I think I may have missed the mark on this one. After studying it a bit more, I think it's probably not signed by Madonna. Hope Kamran chimes in. You may want to friend him if you are looking for a Madonna. He is the best on her!

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on January 10, 2019 at 3:05pm

I hope they got it right and I'm wrong. But, I've come not to trust anyone completely on Madonna autographs. So many respected auction houses and dealers miss the mark on her.

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Permalink Reply by James on January 10, 2019 at 5:05pm

Black, I hope we are wrong as well, but I’m almost certain this is a forgery style according to Kamran...at least I think.  So we’ll see what he says.  If it isn’t real, you’ll obviously need to get you’re money back.  I do know that PAYPAL is much kinder to buyers than sellers.  Anyway, I hope it all works out.

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Permalink Reply by Kamran on January 10, 2019 at 10:25pm

Once again this one is totally fake

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Permalink Reply by Kamran on January 10, 2019 at 10:33pm

I saw it was sold on ebay I think this week!!   If u paid by paypal you are covered do not worry....99% of the autographes on ebay are fake....and most of those have been forged by the same person!!!  There are soo many of his out there...many people only know the fakers handwriting as the ONLY reference because they have been doing it for so long....and  I personally have seen many many certificates that accompany most of them too

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Permalink Reply by Kamran on January 10, 2019 at 10:42pm

So a good authenticador is no guaranty to be genuine actually...…..  No mister not in Madonna's case....just ask me ok....I will tell you straight away if good or bad

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on January 10, 2019 at 10:41pm

It's certified by Beckett, so does BiB argue against their COA?

BiB, is there a return privilege?

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Permalink Reply by Kamran on January 10, 2019 at 11:01pm

yes start ebay claim.....with above reason...you are totally covered...Do not give up wanting or looking for a real Madonna ok....because with the price  you are willing to pay..you will find a good real one

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Permalink Reply by Paul on January 10, 2019 at 11:08pm

Seems as though you can't trust anyone in this hobby.

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Permalink Reply by Kamran on January 10, 2019 at 11:12pm

Well I think the third party authenticators do it in good faith...and hope they wouldn't just certify just anything....but its important for them to have on file images of real examples and importantly too fakes...esp once they are made aware of the situation..and there are known forgers around on a grand scale

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Permalink Reply by James on January 11, 2019 at 12:47am

Kamran, I’ve seen at least a few of this forgery style authenticated by PSA, Beckett, and JSA!  So now all three of these major TPAs have it in their files that this is an authentic Madonna style when it’s not.  Sadly, some people are going to buy these for good money, and happily think they have a real Madonna.  Unfortunately, not everybody has a Batman (Kamran) they can rely on like on like we can.

Permalink Reply by Paul on January 10, 2019 at 11:15pm

What happens if the seller comes back and says it has a Beckett coa!

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