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Permalink Reply by Brandon Mysinger on November 16, 2012 at 3:51am

Now I wouldn't know Lady Gaga or her autograph if she came up and wrote it on my forehead. However, I would love for SOMEONE to explain this item ( Item #: 140681682937 )

How in the HELL did that get a cert? I don't care if it was witnessed by Jumping Joey Orlando. This shows there is no working sense of ethics. Out of good consciousness. It SHOULD have been rejected. Sadly, they probably view it as a "great" example. Heck, it might be. Still, an unstructured mess such as this should in no way shape or form receive a COA

Ohhhhhh that's right, a coa=$. Nevermind, I understand now.

Hou will probably want to ask Roger Epperson about the JSA items I think that he is still their Music Authenticator. He may be able to give more insight.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Viola on November 16, 2012 at 6:10am

I have gotten Gaga in person 3 times and they are all different, in fact one was just a 'L'.  I cant see how anyone can know a real one from a fake one.

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Permalink Reply by Rich on November 16, 2012 at 6:17am

I think there are many instances on ebay of them slapping their stickers on autographs that are so poor that it would be impossible to deem authentic or fake without considering the source.  It's one of the big reasons I don't send items to PSA and often skip over items with their sticker when I'm looking for an item.

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Permalink Reply by DB on November 16, 2012 at 6:59am

Never understood the "squigglies" 3rd party verification -vs- the 1st party verification obtainment with the latter being more acceptable depending on who the inperson grapher is.

but speaking of two of the examples above with one on EBAY & the other on hollywoodmemorabilia.com.  They are the same and most likely the same seller with PSA/DNA #S80841.  Hollywoodmemorabilia.com reminds me of Sportsmemorabilia.com with having "affiliate" images.

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Permalink Reply by A.B. on November 16, 2012 at 7:14am

BTW...this is the one Lady Gaga autograph of all the mentioned autographs which could really be deemed authentic as it resembles her "signature" quite well.

Have to admit that I´m no expert, though.

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Permalink Reply by Michael Pratt on November 26, 2012 at 1:32am

Hi there,

Not sure if anyone will see this reply, but, I'd just like to thank everyone who did take the time to reply to my thread. Much appreciated. I don't get a great deal of time to read everything or see the replies immediately and being on the other side of the planet it really does help to get feedback.

This is NOT an attack on said company, BUT, it certainly seems (and this is just one instance) where companies seem to be simply filling their coffers while possibly causing damage to the hobby/trade and injecting the market with absolute rubbish. Some of us are only rarely able to get in-person signatures (due to geographic location) and I'd guess many would RELY on authentication by so-called professionals to do their job. It would seem to me, that if you are UNSURE of a signature, simply do not "authenticate" it. That way, you keep your ethics intact and leave it to the discretion of the autograph owner instead. When a company starts to turn out thousands of authenticated signatures weekly, the machine it has become often leads to assumption, overconfidence and unreliability. I'm not even going to mention the possibility of conflict of interest if ANY staff/authenticators are also dealing in the same celebrities themselves. That is simply ASKING for manipulation of the prices and/or rarity of autographs. He who controls the spice, controls the universe. ; )

Anyway, thanks guys. Much appreciated.

P.S. The German bloke who asked for a digital image of my Gaga signature to compare with his, please be patient. I'll post as soon as I get more time. And "DB"... I agree, the Gaga signature you mentioned IS pretty much the same as mine. Ta.

Michael

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