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Permalink Reply by Kyle M. on April 20, 2011 at 7:34pm

Hmm, clear signatures for something so old. Weren't most of these dual signatures inscribed by either John or Yoko?

 

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on April 21, 2011 at 7:47am

Actually, most have been inscribed by neither John or Yoko.

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on April 20, 2011 at 7:40pm

For comparison purposes, this is a photo album mostly of John Lennon albums offered over the years by Forever Legends (www.foreverlegends.com). We believe all of these are Southern California forgeries:

Jason, I know you looked at the photo album. I'm posting this so others can compare.

(Click slide show to view larger images.)

Permalink Reply by Gordon Jones on April 20, 2011 at 10:54pm

Jason, It’s so easy to become overzealous when the autograph adrenaline kicks in, especially in the beginning stages of autograph collecting.  Been there, done that!  I’ve been collecting now for about 25 years and I have certainly learned by now, but in the beginning I really got taken several times in a big way. It hurts so bad when the realization that your paid for piece that you LOVE and thought you just couldn’t live without is indeed not at all what you thought you were purchasing.  It takes away so much of the magic of collecting knowing that  there are folks out there selling fake signed pieces, that will look you in the eye, take your money, smile and say “and be sure to come back to see us….(SUCKER)!"  Live and learn and remember that Karma is real; hence INSTANT KARMA!!  But in your case, I’ve no doubt that a trip back to San Francisco to call a fraud a fraud, and with the threat of either Guido or the local SFDP, you’ll get your money back.  Good luck, Jason! Best, Gordon

Permalink Reply by roger epperson on April 21, 2011 at 5:56am

Jason

I'm sorry but in my expert opinion this album is not authentic.  I hope you can get your money back.

Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on April 21, 2011 at 6:51am

I would not place much faith in an AAU Drew Max authentication.

Permalink Reply by CJCollector on April 21, 2011 at 11:38am

Everyone knows how I feel about Mr. Drew Max.

His COA (AAU) was one of three that "authenticated (cough, cough)" that pathetic Lou Gehrig signed jersey on the "Pawn Stars" show.  The other two were Ted Taylor (TTA/Stat Authentic) and Chris Morales.

Awhile back on Ebay there was a Mickey "Charles" Mantle signed baseball on Ebay.  The cert for the ball was issued by "AAU."  A Mickey "Charles" Mantle signed baseball is extremely rare.  If one is found they usually sell for over $1,000.00.   The one on Ebay certed by "AAU" sold for a whopping $315.00.  It was ugly.

There's a major website that sells a ton of garbage and everything is only "certed" by Burczyk, Morales, Ted Taylor and AAU.

Enough said.

 

 

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on April 21, 2011 at 12:03pm

What site is that, Chris?

Permalink Reply by CJCollector on April 21, 2011 at 12:42pm

Jason, for them it's a "show."  The showing of that Lou Gehrig signed jersey did piss off hobbyists, but to the Pawn Stars producers it's a 'show" and it's all about ratings.   They don't know anything about autographs and they don't care.    The below is presently on the Coach's Corner auction site and the ball is "certed" by "AAU."

http://www.myccsa.com/Lot.aspx?LotID=260736

 

Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on April 21, 2011 at 12:50pm

The Mantle may actually be the best one of the bunch!

 

The "Ted" is wildly loopy. Robinson and Mays look like they were slowly drawn.

 

I've never really studied Aaron, but it is a scary sig because it looks like it'd be easy to fake convincingly.

Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on April 21, 2011 at 12:45pm

I don't think they are deep enough into autographs to know who the real experts are or even be aware the controversy surrounding these "forensic document examiners."

 

So, I would like to think the Pawn Stars people believe they are truly doing their due diligence. But it does make me wonder about the reliability of the other regular experts I see on the show. Do the antique gun collectors scoff at their experts the same way many autograph collector scoff at Max?

Permalink Reply by CJCollector on April 21, 2011 at 12:46pm

Good point, Mr. Zipper.

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