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Restored Beatles poster.

Here's a signed poster that I'm sure most of you guys have already seen.It was sold on rr a while back and more recently on iconic.The first picture is of the piece in its original untouched condition.the second picture is of the same piece with major restoration work to it.The owner was asking me if I was Interested in buying it.With that kind of work done to a piece such as this,should I totally pass on it.How much can this effect the value?

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on February 5, 2016 at 11:05am

I don't mean forget about it, but you need to get all the facts and figure out what's gone on with it, who has owned it, who restored it, from Iconic on.

Permalink Reply by Scott Paul on February 5, 2016 at 11:07am

I would suggest that a restorer should have made meticulous notes regarding what areas were restored, and the materials used, etc. I know in regards to paintings that reputable restorers do that. This is done as a blueprint for future restoration work or to undo something. In particular I would want to know how much the signatures themselves were touched. I agree with Eric if the seller knowingly is selling a restored item without disclosure then I would be very wary of dealing with them. Also I would want to know the restorers name.

Permalink Reply by Paul Hakimian on February 5, 2016 at 8:47am

Glad to be the one to start such a hot topic Steve.

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Permalink Reply by KarlKeaton on February 5, 2016 at 2:46am

Interesting discussion. Eric has provided some very educated insight into the world of restorations. Like so many things in life the more you learn the more complicated it gets.

One thing that is becoming apparent is that some of us have different opinions as to what is and isn't acceptable. Personally I don't find this restoration off putting based upon the pictures although removing what was apparently a bit of Beatle humour was IMO a bad move.

I do remember that signed Sgt. Peppers that was on FC's website years ago (It wasn't Lizzie Bravo's signed album). The description was that a full set of Beatle Autographs, conveniently 1967 examples on a sheet of paper that happened to match the colour of the cover were somehow transferred onto the cover. That left me scratching my head and was just too much to rest easy with me. So that's where I stand on it, I think this piece is acceptable to my uneducated on restoration process mind but 'lifted' signatures is somewhere I definitely wouldn't go.

Another way of looking at it might be that if you have a good chance of getting your money back on the piece in the future then it's not such a gamble and in all honesty most people would say that it is a better looking piece for the restoration work done.

I think the best advice has already been given; make sure you inspect the item in person, establish a 'return' clause. keep in mind Eric's great point about the restored parts maybe ageing differently to the unrestored parts.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on February 5, 2016 at 7:00am

I'm with you, Karl.

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Permalink Reply by sling on February 5, 2016 at 8:46am

I think this was sgt pepper I referred to earlier. Very wierd

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Permalink Reply by Paul on February 5, 2016 at 11:29am

Does anuone have a link or scans of that pepper lp that was manufacturered?

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Permalink Reply by Paul on February 5, 2016 at 11:07am

Im aware that these restorers can manufacturer signed beatles lps, that lead me to stay away from collecting Beatles.

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Permalink Reply by Chad B on February 5, 2016 at 8:05am

With four Paul signatures and one from each of the rest, I believe from a purely financial angle it is a good investment. I do find it odd someone would take that big of a loss ($4,000 range) on it on top of the cost of the work done on it.

I would proceed with much caution even though it seems like a good deal.

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Permalink Reply by sling on February 5, 2016 at 8:31am

yes, the financial loss has me puzzled too

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Permalink Reply by Paul Hakimian on February 5, 2016 at 8:45am

Me too,11,500 +resto=maybe 13k+?
I'm going to talk to the seller hopefully today,I'll let y ou guys know about anything I find out.Btw,I woke up this morning and noticed this thread was very much still ongoing, read everything and it's very interesting aND informative.Thanks for the education guys.