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Elizabeth Taylor authentic?

Could I get a opinion on this Elizabeth Taylor signed playbill.
Thank you

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Permalink Reply by Jason on November 23, 2016 at 6:59pm

While we are on the topic of Elizabeth Taylor, can I get your thoughts on this signature?

Thank you!

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on November 23, 2016 at 8:22pm

Strict application of what I wrote earlier suggests this is secretarial.

What do you think?

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on November 23, 2016 at 8:37pm

This is why I am glad I am not an authenticator. I would suspect your "Warner" signature. Here is an example of an in-person obtained signature for comparison.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on November 23, 2016 at 8:39pm

Hi Joe,

That is on two lines for starters as the exemplars and not the secretarials - that really looks the same hand as the previous? The op? I just don't see it. Did you see anything between the supposed 1981 and the 1983 as suggested?

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on November 23, 2016 at 8:47pm

Eric, not sure which examples we are talking about now. I am beginning to agree with you that the original Taylor is more likely a secretarial. The Warner example I uploaded is an in person example.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on November 23, 2016 at 8:50pm

And I am agreeing with you. It's a fine Warner you showed. Your Warner, on two lines, is very different then the previous "Warner" and the OP "1981" playbill.

I think we are on the same page.

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on November 23, 2016 at 8:54pm

Cool. I haven't given much thought to Elizabeth Taylor recently. BTW, if anyone is looking for a good Taylor signature at a fair price I have one.

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Permalink Reply by Robert Chase on November 23, 2016 at 9:32pm

I would like to thank everyone for their input on the 81 playbill. I don't think it resembles the 83 exemplar. Did she try to squeeze it in to fit into a lighter area causing it to look different? No idea. I almost see a mix of both authentic and secretarial qualities. Meaning Someone may have practiced? With that said,I agree with Eric and lean towards secretarial.
Thanks again

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on November 23, 2016 at 9:35pm

Hi Robert,

You are very welcome. If Joe is talking about the example I think he might be - you may want to ask to see it.

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Permalink Reply by Robert Chase on November 23, 2016 at 9:48pm

Will do. The more I looked at the 81 playbill, the more I thought it didn't have the right feel. You made some convincing points.
You have to be comfortable when making a purchase
Thanks

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on November 29, 2016 at 4:21pm

Which and why?

Show you work if you can please.

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Permalink Reply by Pauline Berry on November 29, 2016 at 4:27pm

Yes please, examples would be great Eric :-) I can't find any secretarials that are as close to these autos being put on here for opinions.

Could you possibly put your best secretarial comparison on that you think would be confused with an authentic Elizabeth?

Elizabeth is only a moderately expensive auto after all. $300 tops? (signed photos are more of course).

Worth forging? it seems just a lot of secretarials but few forgeries. These seem to be the only two things to compare to one another. And autopen of course, so easy to spot those though.