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John Garfield

Here’s one from a great actor who sadly died at a young age (39). While it has the general appearance of his signature, what’s throwing me off is the way the ‘d’ at the end is disconnected from the rest, which is atypical, and the connected flourish at the end, which again is atypical. My only thought is it is connected but the pen ran dry there, just like it appears to run dry try to connect the two parts of the ‘d’??

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Permalink Reply by David Lewis on June 16, 2021 at 2:46pm

Greg, All we are able to give you are opinions, we were not there the day this was signed. Eric is knowledgable and has a good eye for autographs. I tend to lean to cheaper street signed autographs. All I can guarantee you both is years back I would have taken the chance for a dollar this was real, but before I ever sold it it this would have been 3rd partied for real or destroyed as a fake as I have shown on a Clark Gable of mine on this site.

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Permalink Reply by Greg on June 16, 2021 at 3:27pm

Then again, all third parties are just opinions as well...I can point out many examples from PSA, JSA, BAS where the evidence points to them not being real. I just don’t see them taking as much time as we do going over every single letter and comparing to dozens of exemplars. I do like that Eric is a harsh critic of autographs, we need that on a site such as this, but I’m really having a hard time seeing what he’s seeing on this one, with what it’s written on only lending more authenticity. As I said in the beginning, the only thing that’s pulling me away are the other questionable ones he’s selling...of the classic graphs, the Stanwyck, McDowell, Guinness, and Bono look good to me, with the Mineo and Tierney looking bad...if that were true that would lend more credence to this Garfield being good too, since I’m sure everyone had a few bad apples in their collection back then? That’s my rationale anyways ;)

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on June 16, 2021 at 3:34pm

I don't use TPA's. I do my own research and trust my eye and experience. This Garfield appears odd man out in many ways. As mentioned, a lot of this sellers modern cards appear by the same hand - some same paper. Why drink from a dirty well? I see no upside. This Garfield can't be called typical either.

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Permalink Reply by David Lewis on June 16, 2021 at 5:58pm

Greg, I will use TPS's to get the most money for my autographs as possible when I start selling, next year. Many dealers resell what they collect. The TPA's should have many more exemplars than myself should they have the ability to use their collective exemplars wisely.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on June 16, 2021 at 6:29pm

PSA facts 50% of the Gleason's are secretarial or forgeries. No thanks.

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Permalink Reply by David Lewis on June 16, 2021 at 6:21pm

Greg, The other actors or celebrities mean nothing. I am only looking at Garfields ink. Sellers of autographs can have a mixed bag. I am currently going through my collection of 40 plus years deleting my collection of the worthless autographs….to be honest.

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Permalink Reply by Eddy on June 16, 2021 at 9:20pm

Just chiming in....very reasoned point you have, Greg:

"...all third parties are just opinions as well...I can point out many examples from PSA, JSA, BAS where the evidence points to them not being real. I just don’t see them taking as much time as we do going over every single letter and comparing to dozens of exemplars."

My thought is one that I am trying to practice as I gain confidence: Trust yourself and your sense of it. Find a collector friend who has experience and does not have a dog in the fight, as it were. Sometimes a trusted 2nd opinion really does help.