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Permalink Reply by Michael Kasmar-AutographPros.com on March 28, 2017 at 3:55pm

I had been waiting to chime in on this as I'd done some background research along with Steve Cyrkin.  I waited because I was convinced these were book cuts but with the advancement of technology such as autopen machines and potential innovations that forgers can use like transfers I just didn't want to say something that would benefit a criminal if either of the latter were being done.  I also don't like giving forgers new ideas.  Ultimately I don't believe these are autopens, heat transfers, or any reproductions.  I believe they are as I suspected repurposed pickguards and appreciate the efforts of those who helped get to that conclusion.  Again, without having one in front of me I still can't be 100% sure but seeing the lip on the pickguard around the edge that looks like a book page, the signatures sometimes being cut off in areas you'd need to cut them off to fit the pickguard, and even the blue color from the book page on one as Justin had pointed out leaves me reassured these are simply repops.  With that said these SHOULD NOT be authenticated as pickguards...these are cuts or repurposed pickguards and don't have the same value as pickguards.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on March 28, 2017 at 4:11pm

Agreed. They are not real signed pickguards.

And look at the confusion: you look for exemplars and find the exact same autograph in a book that's on your pickguard. Sleazy as all get-out.

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Permalink Reply by marc e on March 28, 2017 at 4:13pm

if they realy are paste on there no diffrence than a signed backstage pass put on a guitar.

yes they have way less value than a real signed on the body or signed on the actual pickguard

u should be able to see or feel the diffrence 

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Permalink Reply by Adam Halloran on March 28, 2017 at 4:22pm

What I don't get is how the page wouldn't rip? I could see putting the graph in between two slabs of clear plastic to protect it like PSA does, but obviously the guard wouldn't have been signed. A piece of paper "glued" on would both yellow and rip overtime if handled.

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on March 28, 2017 at 4:31pm

The second example in the original post looks like it might be under plastic. Did they use a die cutting machine to shape the pages?

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on March 28, 2017 at 4:33pm

Paper sandwiched between plastic? Capillary action might help?

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on March 28, 2017 at 4:50pm

These could be sheets of plastic and the pickguard is cut afterwards. Some of them are pretty rough. 

Does anyone know if Hofner bass pickguards are available in plain white? I've only seen variations of pearlized.

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Permalink Reply by Adam Halloran on March 28, 2017 at 4:52pm

Could it be a custom cut out of clear plastic and overlaid?

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Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on March 28, 2017 at 4:55pm

You'd think if the signed paper was sandwiched between sheets of plastic, it would be pretty obvious the signature was NOT on the surface. 

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Permalink Reply by Adam Halloran on March 28, 2017 at 5:00pm

Absolutely agree. So I don't understand how else this would work without some type of transfer.

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Permalink Reply by Adam Halloran on March 28, 2017 at 5:04pm

The pickguards would have been sent into PSA or jsa to be inspected as well, they didn't see anything funny?

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on March 28, 2017 at 4:31pm

Thinking out loud, but the screw holes, if not filled in again after the resurfacing, should show the presence of starch with some chemical applied in just the hole? This is way too bold a scam - there must be a quick take down.

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