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Have you ever seen Joe Dimaggio sign an autograph with a note like this ???

This was after marilyn & joe were divorced he was her guest at the friars club dinner in 1955 . 20190522_201656.jpg

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Permalink Reply by CJCollector on June 1, 2019 at 1:36pm

Thank you, Eric.

I feel bad for Trent. I know how badly he wants to believe it's authentic.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on June 1, 2019 at 1:41pm

Trent, Christopher is right. We all feel bad. :(

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on June 2, 2019 at 8:44am

Eric, not all of us feel badly.

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Permalink Reply by Trent west on June 1, 2019 at 3:06pm

Not one of you can answer the question they were all in the same room at the dinner . She watched her sign it look at the archived photos & film . How can you say it's not her signature everyone could see her signing autographS ?

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on June 1, 2019 at 3:26pm

You can not know for a fact the lady you knew watched MM sign it. I do know that is not Marilyn Monroe's handwriting. The autographs in photos and film will fit the parameters of genuine MM signatures, even if rushed or intoxicated. Yours is not rushed nor intoxicated - it is startlingly legible and bears no relation to the genuine article because it is not genuine.

So they were all in a room - if you sent backstage in 1955 for a Jackie Gleason autograph you'd likely get one - but it was not signed by Gleason and everyone knew he did not sign - there were people to sign it and if not, someone would scrawl something to please a fan (and they did not run to a bathroom to sign it - everyone backstage knew). It is called "non-malicious forgery". This happens to this day.

I've pretty much done what I can here. Good Luck Trent :)

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Permalink Reply by Steve on June 1, 2019 at 4:23pm

Trent, you are working way to hard to try and convince us and yourself. Calm down and use a little common sense and logic. If you don’t trust a third party authentication, then send it to a reputable auction house and they will either accept it or decline it. You will get your answer.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on June 1, 2019 at 4:29pm

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Permalink Reply by CJCollector on June 1, 2019 at 12:35pm

Trent, do you think we enjoy informing members that their autograph(s) aren't authentic?

We would much rather rejoice with you on your authentic discovery, but unfortunately, this isn't the case.

One of the primary reasons why the Forgery Industry is so huge, is because people "want to believe" that what they possess "is the real thing."

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on June 1, 2019 at 1:09pm

+1 Would much prefer it were genuine.

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Permalink Reply by Jason Strecker on June 1, 2019 at 12:42pm

It could very well be Marilyn had a secretary sitting amongst her that evening.

I have a friend, since deceased, who insisted he had a Charlton Heston in person and I believed it was secretarial. Very possible it was a ttm and he lied to me but he also said the items were sent to the backstage area of an event where possibly Carol Lanning was with sharpie in hand.

You just never know if you don't see it in person. I've heard singers/band members doing the "security takes item on bus" only for the item to come back with a forged signature

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on June 1, 2019 at 1:13pm

+1 Michael Jackson ("bus" signatures), the Beatles (by Aspinall/Evans backstage etc.), Jean Harlow (by "Mama" backstage)...we just saw Bill Wyman signing for the other Stones...