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eBay tells me...."They allow forgeries" I'm NOT JOKING GUYS.

I brought up eBay seller: this-n-thatsportscollectiblesplusmore the other day and after going through his account and calculating how much money he has made on forgeries, I decided to call eBay yesterday. After being transferred around, I finally get a hold of someone in (Fraud Resolution) and this person seemed to have knowledge of autographs.

At any rate, I firstly explained my frustration with eBay allowing forgeries to constantly be sold on their site and how it seems that eBay has a serious lack of concern in relation to the problem of forgeries being sold on their site.

HIS RESPONSE: The Fraud Department does its very best to weed out easily identifiable forgeries and those of higher valued items by using Third Party Authenticators to look at items that have been reported. However, it is the buyers responsibility to do their own research before bidding

I then asked why Global Authentication is still an eBay approved authenticator with their reputation of authenticating thousands and thousands of forgeries on a monthly basis.

HIS RESPONSE: I will have to defer on that question because I don't have an answer for you. I will pass that comment along to the fraud department.

I then brought up seller this-n-thatsportscollectiblesplusmore who has sold over 250,000 $$$ dollars in forgeries all authenticated by Global Authentication. I explained that I go in weekly to report his items, yet they never get removed.

HIS RESPONSE: In order for an item to be removed it must be reported by multiple eBay users.

SO AFTER THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION, I feel that eBay is very passive on forgeries. Based on this conversation, it honestly seemed to me that they don't give a rats tail if people sell forgeries.

LET'S DO THIS...GO TO this-n-thatsportscollectiblesplusmore and report every item you think is fake. Let's just see if we all report if eBay will do anything about him. He has sold over 1,000 Tom Brady signed Helmets and Footballs and I have reported EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. By myself NONE OF THEM HAVE EVER BEEN REMOVED. Let us see if as a team, we can get action. So go look at the autographs you feel are fake and report them. Will it get a response out of ebay?

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on October 26, 2014 at 3:42pm

there is a ridiculous number of GA certed Brady forgeries on Ebay at any one time. Everyone that is familiar with Brady's signing habits know that he is a very difficult signature to obtain, and many times, it is just squiggly lines now. these GA Brady's are all the same, just like the Jeters and Riveras that we certed by the hundreds.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on October 26, 2014 at 6:01pm

The way eBay has started turning a blind eye to fraud is in inexcusable, Jason. And it's not just the big sellers. The little ones add up, like this seller, Bear7171. He just sells a few at a time, but eBay's past auction history, which only goes back 15 days, shows that he's a regular seller of forgeries. It adds up over time.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/bear7171/m.html?item=231364526738&hash=...

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on October 26, 2014 at 6:03pm

Hey Bear,

I see you're from Mount Sterling, Kentucky, too...just like Bear7171. Do you know him?

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Permalink Reply by Mike Shepherd on October 26, 2014 at 6:07pm

Wow. Nice catch Steve.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on October 26, 2014 at 6:12pm

Thanks, but not my catch. Someone else gave me the heads-up and I looked into it. I don't know if he's a member of AML or not.

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Permalink Reply by Mike T on October 26, 2014 at 6:11pm

He does seem to have a vendetta against TPA's since he started posting here. Interesting coincidence.

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Permalink Reply by Mike Shepherd on October 26, 2014 at 6:16pm

I totally agree Mike. I suppose that this is the result of AML members doing their own research.

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Permalink Reply by wascher on October 26, 2014 at 6:26pm

I likened it to a skipping record.... when I spoke with Steve (altho I didn't point it out initially)

-w

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Permalink Reply by Jason Poulos on October 26, 2014 at 8:26pm

Oh wow Steve...Those are some bad Ali forgeries. Very nice catch. So this guy is a member of this site? I thought we were here to prevent forgers, yet they lurk in our midst?

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Permalink Reply by wascher on October 27, 2014 at 12:49am

All the time Jason.... all the time. They come in and even try to sell their goods here. Or post items of their own to see if we think its good, then they can get pointers on how to correct their goof ups. This is one of the big reasons why many of the folks here who are proficient at certain autographs don't point out specifically what is wrong with a piece (besides the obvious that its really hard to explain everything that is wrong with something when you know the whole thing is slightly off). The forgers follow this site and join in quite often.

-w

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Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on October 27, 2014 at 2:52am

Typical disinformation agent with a hidden agenda. Stick around... You'll see more. A big tipoff is they usually cite Ripoff Report as a reliable source. Once I see that, I immediately know something is up.