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some Lennons

Over the last months a lot of single Lennon autograph appeared on Ebay. Personally I doubt all of them because of their look. In addition I think the chance to get more than one Beatle on paper is better as to have only one to sign. I heard that there are several very good fakes new on the market and it might be possible that these belong to them. ALL THREE had a "quick look" opinion with a positive result from REAL but this means nothing for me. Just for the matter of discussion - what do you think here?

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Permalink Reply by Thorsten Knublauch on October 5, 2016 at 5:03am

Then you`d should go against that - this thread is full of "pre-certificated" Lennons all sold through Ebay.

I will contact the seller and ask for a proof of the pre certificate... ;-)

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Permalink Reply by Thorsten Knublauch on October 5, 2016 at 8:43am

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on October 5, 2016 at 9:27am

When I see an autograph posted for sale with a quick opinion email, my guard goes up. They're usually fake QOs.

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Permalink Reply by Thorsten Knublauch on October 5, 2016 at 10:10am

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Permalink Reply by Jim Cushman on October 5, 2016 at 7:13am

As with Roger...they've faked COA's from Frank Caiazzo as well!!! I used to spot them on Ebay...get in touch with him...and he would get them removed.

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Permalink Reply by a pug called eva on October 5, 2016 at 10:18am

Hi Thorsten

I understand your concerns but I would be a bit careful about posting images with peoples' email addresses.

I wonder why Roger didn't reply from the address the request was sent to?

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Permalink Reply by Thorsten Knublauch on October 5, 2016 at 10:30am

It has to be done like this - to check if the email is genuine or not.

There is no problem to answer from a different adress if you have more than one address and these are all collected under one address.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on October 5, 2016 at 11:03am

There are so many limitations with online opinions when it comes to identifying fakes. The authenticator is limited by the quality and size of the image, and by not having the autograph in hand.

It could be a complete copy. Or the autograph(s) could be printed on the item: some of all of them. And any online opinion offered these days can be faked.

An online opinion can tell you if something is likely fake, but you never know for sure it's genuine unless it's seen in person.

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Permalink Reply by A.B. on October 5, 2016 at 11:23am

And we don't even know if this is really the image originally submitted in the first place.
When I ask Roger for a Quick Opinion he usually replies without the image attached again.

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on October 5, 2016 at 11:31am

Quick opinions are just that. What they do is to weed out obvious fakes and forgeries. Although I would say that are accurate 95% of the time. Especially Roger. I have used and appreciate his honesty and service. Saved me hundreds of dollars. Of course, if someone is intend on committing a dishonest deed for a few bucks, then they will find a way.

Phil Sears has a well known line something like this, "A bad autograph doesn't look better when seen in person but one that looks good online may not pass a close inspection." Didn't get that exact but the point is clear.

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Permalink Reply by James on October 21, 2016 at 6:18pm

We've had discussions on this topic before, and with all due respect, Joe, I can with tremendous confidence say that PSA/DNA Quick Opinions are essentially worthless. I'm not even sure they are right 50% of the time, much less 95%. I say this from both personal experience as well as the experiences of friends and acquaintances. A couple of months back we had a big discussion about PSA QOs, and the consensus was they are terrible. The running joke is that they are done by some high school or college intern. There are just so, so, so many times when very authentic items get a response of "Likely Not Genuine" that it's laughable. That's not to say they never get it right, but it's just a terrible service. And I know many members here agree.