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Bob Dylan AUTOPEN Info To Help With Returns / Refunds - Simon & Schuster, Premiere, and Coles


Three Articles Published by Chris Willman at Variety
A message posted by Bob Dylan to his Facebook account
To my fans and followers,
I’ve been made aware that there’s some controversy about signatures on some of my recent artwork prints and on a limited-edition of Philosophy Of Modern Song. I’ve hand-signed each and every art print over the years, and there’s never been a problem.
However, in 2019 I had a bad case of vertigo and it continued into the pandemic years. It takes a crew of five working in close quarters with me to help enable these signing sessions, and we could not find a safe and workable way to complete what I needed to do while the virus was raging. So, during the pandemic, it was impossible to sign anything and the vertigo didn’t help. With contractual deadlines looming, the idea of using an auto-pen was suggested to me, along with the assurance that this kind of thing is done ‘all the time’ in the art and literary worlds.
Using a machine was an error in judgment and I want to rectify it immediately. I’m working with Simon & Schuster and my gallery partners to do just that.
With my deepest regrets,
Bob Dylan


Previous update 
Some users have uncovered potential autopen use within Bob Dylan's expensive art prints. Please check your prints if you own one and post a picture on this thread if you have any concerns.

here is a link to one of his art prints in question


*UPDATE -  Let this be a warning to ALL publishers and celebrities in the future. We are sick and tired of these autopen releases. Our community has had enough and absolutely will not stand for this practice to continue any longer!!! 

I want to point out that Coles Books needs to be commended. They made sure to look out for their customers and refused to ship these out if they came from the same S&S stock, which they did. It was also an easy process to cancel orders beforehand if you wished. Coles. on behalf of everyone, I want to thank you for having integrity and watching out for all of us.

I can NOT say the same about Premiere Collectibles. They refused to honor cancelation requests until it was known these books were in fact autopenned. They advertise themselves claiming they are collectors themselves. This is not true. They are a retailer first and only care about your money. There have been other autopen incidents where they absolutely refused to accept blame, stating items were real when they were clearly deemed autopen by the community. Be careful with future purchases with Premiere Collectibles.

This email came directly from Jonathan Karp at Simon and Schuster. If anyone still wishes to send him a message, here is his email address as well.


We apologize for the mistake that was made and are offering a full refund of your purchase.  Please keep your copy of The Philosophy of Modern Song at no cost. We hope you will enjoy reading it.


Jonathan Karp

Here are 51 articles and counting detailing our combined efforts on this forum

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I am creating this thread as a comprehensive all in 1 link for returns, refunds, chargebacks and claims made regarding the "signed" edition of Bob Dylan - The Philosophy Of Modern Song. Please use this link to email Simon & Schuster, Coles, and Premiere Collectables as 100% proof these were signed using an autopen machine. 

I would like to say right off the bat, Coles Books in the UK is handling this professionally and seem to care deeply about their customer base. They have stated that, once they are in hand, If they find evidence of them being autopenned, they will cancel all orders.. Kudos to Coles.. I wish all retailers would follow their lead. If you wish to cancel your order with them immediately instead of waiting, It seems to be an easy process.

This post will be continuously updated with new information over the next few days

Please refer to this article for the time being until more information is added


Here is the post I created a few weeks ago with info regarding the Indigo incident.


So far, there have been a total of 17 confirmed different templates for the autopen machine used for Bob Dylans signature. I am in the process of creating video comparisons for all 17 sets. Please post full page photos of your item as they are delivered to aid in this process 

Here are all 17 templates used by Bob Dylan - I am still looking for full page photos for numbers 8,13 and 15 thru 17 but its still best to post whatever you receive

Be aware when checking against your own copy, it has come to light that they are possibly using 1st and last names interchangeably. Bob in #2 matches perfectly with Bob in #13 while Dylan in both are different

14th variation confirmed

15th variation

16th variation - Seems to be almost an exact combination of #11 and #13 with a different vertical line in his "D" 

17th variation

Video and photo comparisons created so far

Video of set 1 Dylan1.mp4  - Photo of set 1 Dylan1.JPG

Video of set 2 Dylan2.mp4  - Photo of set 2 Dylan2.JPG

Video of set 3 Dylan3.mp4  - Photo of set 3 Dylan3.JPG

Video of set 4 Dylan4.mp4  - Photo of set 4 Dylan4.JPG

Video of set 5 Dylan5.mp4  - Photo of set 5 Dylan5.JPG

Video of set 6 Dylan6.mp4  - Photo of set 6 Dylan6.JPG

Video of set 7 Dylan7.mp4  - Photo of set 7 Dylan7.JPG

Video of set 9 Dylan9.mp4  - Photo of set 9 Dylan9.JPG

Video of set 10 Dylan10.mp4 - Photo of set 10 Dylan10.JPG

Video of set 11 Dylan11.mp4 - Photo of set 11 Dylan11.JPG

Video of set 12 Dylan12.mp4 - Photo of set 12 Dylan12.JPG

Video of set 14 Dylan14.mp4 - Photo of set 14 Dylan14.JPG

Here are the COAs stating these books were in fact hand-signed

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Jonathan Karp for USA - Certificate Of Authenticity USA.JPG

Coles listing before it was removed - Coles Website Listing.jpg

Important emails:

Jonathan Karp US - CEO of Simon & Schuster

Duane Ward of Premiere Collectables
duane@premierespeakers.com  - Others have tried duane@premierecollectables.com

Suzanne Baboneau, Managing Director

Ian Chapman, UK - CEO

Bob Dylan's Manager

Jeff Kramer
OK Management
275 South Beverly Drive
Suite 215
Beverly Hills, CA 90212
Phone: 310-535-1647

Bob Dylan's Agent

Brian Greenbaum
Creative Artists Agency
2000 Avenue Of The Stars
Los Angeles, CA 90067
Phone: 424-288-2000

Bob Dylan's Production Agent

Sony/Columbia/CBS Records
550 Madison Avenue
New York, NY 10022
Phone: 212-833-7305

Bob Dylan's Law Firm

Manatt Phelps & Phillips
11355 West Olympic Boulevard
Los Angeles, CA 90064
Phone: 310-312-4000

Bob Dylan's Twitter

Tweet or privatly message Bob on his verified Twitter account.

Bob Dylan's Facebook

Post or message Bob on his verified Facebook.

I also found this email associated with Bob Dylans store. Its worth a try


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Dolly Parton is also guilty of using multiple autopens in the same fashion with multiple templates over the years but with a slight twist where they manipulate the page as the autopen machine writes her signature. If we are looking to stop all future attempts at autopen usage, she needs to be held accountable just as much as Bob Dylan and S&S. Link to threads below

Here is a great example provided by Eric Keith Longo

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I don't think anyone here truly wishes Mr Zimmerman dead, although he could easily pass for a display at Madame Tussauds.

Yeah Al did. Whatever 

“The sooner the old baztard croaks, the better humanity will be for it”


he did something wrong. I get it. I have about 27 grand invested in these prints. I’m not happy. I’m also not wishing him dead. Wtf is wrong with people. Karma doesn’t miss an address. 

Well i'm not considered royalty worth half a billion, who scammed plebians out of literal millions of dollars by selling fake signed prints :) 

In the grand scheme of things, i'm confident the universe won't care too much about a few words uttered on an internet forum. 

Bobs writing he was a kid here but it reminds me of mondo scripto Bob 

This 'Bob' in this teen signature is not far off the 'Bob' used in the earlier prints - Train Tracks and Woman in Red Lion of 2008, 2010, 2012 vintage. No prominent single or double loops.

Had a further response from Castle today:

Thank you very much for your email and further comments. I appreciate your concerns and hope that the following explanations will provide you with comfort regarding the latest event.

I want to start by explaining that the relationship between an artist and his/her gallery is based and built on trust and transparency, without which they cannot collaborate harmoniously. It is therefore a regular and common practice in the artworld for the gallery to rely on the artist’s declaration of authenticity of the prints he/she produces ,signs and deliver for further promotion and sale by the gallery. This trust, built on years of experience, collaboration and shared values and interests is at the very basis of their relationship. We have never been let down in this way by any artist in over 40 years of working with over 100 artists and we consider the unique case with Bob Dylan during the pandemic period to be an extraordinary exception which, as you know, we are committed and in the process of fully rectifying.

As for which prints have been autopen signed and which signed by him :

1.All Dylan prints ever released to date, except for the Retrospectrum Collection 1 and 2 and Sunset monument Valley editions, were produced and hand signed prior the pandemic.

2.Dylan personally (not his team) clearly says in his two public statements that, except for the Retrospectrum Collection 1 and 2 and Sunset monument Valley (which were signed during the pandemic and which he has admitted to using an autopen ) all other prints were signed by him.

In his first statement at the end of the first paragraph he says:

I’ve hand signed each and every art print over the years , and there’s never been a problem.” (my emphasis)

And in his second statement the last sentence of reads:

 “All the prints going forward will be personally hand signed by me as I have done in the past.” (my emphasis)

These are very clear statement from Dylan, when read in the context of the full statements, that he personally hand signed all prints before the pandemic and it’s clear that his use of an autopen was limited to a signing the three named edition series above during the pandemic and no other. He is as unequivocal about personally signing all earlier prints as he has been transparent in admitting to those he did not.  

I hope the above help to further clarify the events and gives you with sufficient explanation to the true position.We regret that we cannot accept that there has been any breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015. If you wish to persist with this claim, I should be grateful if you could specify which part of the Act you believe has been breached and how.

Once again, we apologise for any worry or inconvenience caused and we are always available for further discussion if you so wish. 

Hi Eugene,

  • Was this signed by Ian W-B or an individual? Otherwise, Castle may have now decided to try to take a consistent, corporate stand. Battening down the hatches.
  • I think Castle is concerned or you would not have got this lengthy response. Have you taken out the case concerning just Castle's approach over the refunds for Retrospectrum prints - or others too?
  • It's obvious now that Castle never got near your 'bottom-line' (supervision etc). It relied entirely on just 'trust' - and still does concerning Dylan's latest statement. You might not wish to answer this, but do you still plan legal action? (I don't think I will or can because I will be accepting the refunds).
  • There might be a legal case elsewhere: with scepticism/negativity now about his 2020/21 releases (during lockdown) and even earlier sets. But it might require a legal 'heavy-hitter' to get involved and some substantive evidence  - not fulminations on internet boards.

Thank you, Jason, Steve Cyrkin for your digging away.

- It is direct from Ian WB

- I have two 2020 Mondo Scripto pieces so personal focus is on these but with obvious mind to the potential wider issue impacting other pieces.

- Í’ll be taking legal advice, but I personally believe the case here meets at least two of the three tests for a breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, goods should be “As described” and “Of satisfactory quality”.

  • Direct from Ian W-B: that reflects concern maybe that you could be the legal thin end of a wedge.
  • I have an Asia piece from 2021 - it drops into the lockdown era with the 2020 Mondo Scripto prints. So, I for one, remain interested in what you hear legally. For me, 'due diligence' and Castle have not gone together in any legal shape or form. (I'm not a lawyer though).
  • So 'as described' and 'of satisfactory quality' may be a good approach.

Just 'trust' with Bob ... hmmm ... I still think he is a fantastic songwriter, sometimes been a great performer and his painting has got better and better. But as for trusting him ...


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