Authenticity is Everything
Weird Napoleon Buonaparte Autograph Cut-Opinion
Hello guys.
I just won the bid of this Napoleon signed cut at the last second at IAA Europe. But I just checked the description carefully and I was shocked that the initial 'B' of Buonaparte is a facsimile. It means the other parts of the Buonaparte is live ink without the initial 'B'. I never saw an autograph like this before. I don't know whether I should consider this as a damaged signed cut or something like this. I am wondering the market price and the authentication of it.
What's your guys' Opinions? should I make the payment because of its low price or just deny it? Please Help me, I would appreciate it a lot if you can share your opinions.
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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin
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If they described it correctly then you are obligated to buy in most cases. It's your responsibility to read listings carefully before you bid.
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Permalink Reply by X Karl To Steve Cyrkin, Admin
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Thanks for your reply Steve. Did you ever saw an autograph like this? which is partly facsimile. how the market price of this could be and will the reputable authenticators like psa accept it ?
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You "checked the description carefully" after you bid on, and won, the item?
The photo clearly shows the signature crosses over two different pieces of paper. That might have been worth investigating prior to bidding.
Assuming it's (mostly) authentic, it's an odd but interesting presentation. No idea on value or desirability.
In any case, I don't think you should be bidding in any auctions.
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Thanks for your reply JK. I know this is quite dumb. I just accidently found this item on auction and I don't have time to read the description, This was such a bad coincidence. I was surprised I won this with a quite low price But then the description make me shocked. BTW, what's your opinion on the authentication of it? Thanks
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I'm afraid I can't help with authentication...
It's definitely unusual but someone made a valiant effort to repair an incomplete signature. Very creative.
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JK, collecting is part joy/part learning experience. X Karl is learning how to buy at auction. Thanks to you and other members here, he's learning the ropes.
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If the auction house is in Europe you do not need to proceed with paynent if you do not wish to.
EU law trumps Auctioneers Terms and you have a two-week window to withdraw from the transaction. There will be consequences - you will be banned from future participation in their auctions as the least but that is the worst they can do.
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Thanks for your reply Findbooks. I will contact the auction later. BTW, I am still wondering the authentication of the live ink part. If it is deemed authentic. I can complete the payment due to its low price though.
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X Karl, if the auction house is reputable, I'd follow through on the purchase if the rest of the signature is likely genuine. Your reputation is important, it sounds like they were being ethical in their description, and they may have other things you want in the future that will more than make up for this situation.
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Permalink Reply by eddy
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I don't quite understand what you are looking to achieve, X Karl.
I had that auction saved because I found it to be an interesting lot:
https://www.autographauctions.eu/auction/lot/lot-1218---napoleon-i-...
It seems to me as though the description couldn't have been more thorough.
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Permalink Reply by michelle To eddy
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The auction house does not have a good reputation for authenticity for many of their items, what price did you win it for out of interest?
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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo To michelle
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In my mind a reputable auction house would not sell this sort of thing on to is clients.
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