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Permalink Reply by marc e on April 24, 2018 at 8:48am

I second that your views so your not in minority .

but if people feel a need to collect him no clue why then do in a private section

I belive as I said the holucast musuem and other institutions  should be exempt

even pawnstars wont buy him and rick would buy anything he can make a buck  from.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on April 24, 2018 at 9:12am

You're probably not in the minority, Michelle. I lost a lot of ancestors in the Holocaust, so it turns my stomach to see Hitler and Nazi autographs and artifacts.

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Permalink Reply by Jim McFiver on April 24, 2018 at 12:10am

That's a proper and reasoned solution, Steve. I'm in complete agreement.

For autograph collecting purposes, this forum shouldn't be the place to debate evil (because there's no debating involved). But like the person who initiated this topic, it should be a resource for authenticity and similar historical finds or inquiries. Your solution resolves that and puts these type of signatures in their proper place and context.

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Permalink Reply by Alastair Mulholland on April 24, 2018 at 2:34am

Who would want an autographed photo of hitler on their wall?. 

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Permalink Reply by goodcat on April 24, 2018 at 3:56am

is that supposed to be a serious question? 

did you actually read any of this thread?

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Permalink Reply by Alastair Mulholland on April 24, 2018 at 5:41am

Well would you?

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Permalink Reply by Cogo on April 24, 2018 at 5:48am

You know that it’s actually possible to own an autograph and not have it framed and hanging on the wall, right?

But I understand what you mean. The OPs third pic shows a framed signed Hitler photo, that’s just wrong according to me.

As a history teacher I would like to own a piece of history like a Hitler autograph. To be able to use it as a educational piece while teaching, to make history ”real” for the students. Many students today have problems grasping that the horror that were WW2 actually has happend. They think it’s almost like some kind of fiction.

I use real nazi money the same way with good results. That why I would want one!

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Permalink Reply by Danny Francis on April 25, 2018 at 3:21pm

+1 SMDH

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Permalink Reply by marc e on April 24, 2018 at 8:50am

no dame clue but there are rise in white supremecy and nationlist in America in the last year so they would love to hang or own there heros autograph .yes its sick.my 2 cents

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Permalink Reply by Trevor Song on April 24, 2018 at 1:19pm

what are your sources about the rise of these things? Please don't post any fake news articles. :-)

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Permalink Reply by Scott Paul on April 24, 2018 at 6:58am

I think a private group would be a proper compromise.  I think that it should be urged that only the merits of the signature be discussed there. Personally I would urge anyone interested in the monetary aspect to look elsewhere. I also think probably leave it to your discretion on who the "other despicables" are. 

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Permalink Reply by Christopher on April 24, 2018 at 6:56am

Cat expressed disappointment that so few have weighed in on this discussion.  I've been following along, and thinking.  I struggle with this topic.  We collect autographs because we somehow are driven to own what we consider and hope is a piece of history.  But the general categories are broad.  I collect music autographs.  Looking around the room where these are displayed, it's clear that what I own is what I like, primarily because of the music and also because I consider much of what I own to be art.  In the vast landscape of music over the decades, the number of bands I own is a tiny, tiny sample of the thousands of artists who have created music.  So I arrive at a simple conclusion; I own what I like.  Why would I own anything I don't have an interest in?  So extend that logic to Hitler.  Why own it unless you like it?  A larger pursuit of historical documents, taking an academic approach, makes sense perhaps.  So maybe it's perfectly valid that someone may wish to own Hitler in an academic, dispassionate way.  But what I've concluded is that its very easy to be presented with something like Hitler and automatically question the person presenting it.  I don't want to judge anyone else's motives, but it takes discipline to avoid being judgmental, whether you admit it or not.  So....what does all this mean?  The battle is between censorship, as Cat points out, and unregulated presentation of someone like Hitler, who many, most, all, agree should not be glorified in any manner.  Setting personal feelings aside and attempting to be principled, my vote is against censorship and for some modest form of regulation.  The segregated discussion area for this topic seems a reasonable solution.  As an aside, other than my grandmother's family being from Liverpool England and being bombed regularly during WWII, I have no family directly impacted by Hitler.  But I used to travel internationally a fair amount for work, which took me to Krakow Poland many times.  A truly lovely city.  And a short distance down the road is Auschwitz.  I took the tour twice, walked through the gate "Work makes you free".  Those tours are among the most powerful experiences I've ever had.   We must keep history alive, but I wouldn't want a Hitler autograph within a hundred miles of my house, unless it's in a museum. 

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