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TPA Passed an Autograph but Another TPA Failed It

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Permalink Reply by Paul on May 24, 2021 at 1:23am

I wouldnt trust Aoac , it's a very exclusive yes man club!

Permalink Reply by Paul on May 24, 2021 at 2:16am

Racc booted roger epperson out of their club and he authenticates for a number of large firms.

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on May 27, 2021 at 9:11am

Paul is a rejected RACC lover. They kicked him out and won't let him back, even though he promised to "behave."

Roger is a member of RACC. A highly valued one at that. I just looked a second ago. Never has been removed.

Weeks ago you asked if I could see if RACC would let you back in, since they removed you a few years ago for lying and making false accusations. I asked and they said no. Now you're lying and badmouthing them again after you wanted to join.

You're permanently banned from Autograph Live now too.

Permalink Reply by Mike Shepherd on May 28, 2021 at 5:05am

I agree, Terrier.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on May 23, 2021 at 7:14pm

And some auction houses will sell what they think they can sell, authenticity aside.

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Permalink Reply by Dennis on May 23, 2021 at 7:20pm

Right. I noticed that many of them emphasize that they sell "as is". Clearly to prevent liability of some kind.

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Permalink Reply by Eddy on May 23, 2021 at 7:43pm

Eric and Dennis....the above realities you point out of auction houses....and 25% on top as well for the privilege of competing in that environment.

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Permalink Reply by bernard howard on May 24, 2021 at 4:29am

James Spence Authentication, LLC | Better Business Bureau® Profile ...

JSA JAMES SPENCE AUTHENTICATION HAS AN 'F' RATING FROM THE BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU. WHY SHOULD ONE TRUST THEM???

FROM THE BBB SITE:

CURRENT ALERTS FOR THIS BUSINESS

Misuse of BBB Name and/or Logo:

This business is referencing BBB Accreditation in their email signatures. This business is not an Accredited Business of this BBB and our policies prohibit such a reference.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on May 27, 2021 at 9:20am

Bernard,

I can't imagine JSA falsely using the BBB logo, but the BBB gets tons of complaints about legitimate third-party authenticators. Why? A lot of it is because submittors don't like it when the authenticators don't certify their autograph as genuine. And also because the forgery industry does all they can to harm legitimate authenticators.

Many if not most major TPAs get F ratings from the BBB for those reasons.

JSA is one of the top three most respected general authenticators in the US. Do they make some mistakes? Yes, in my opinion, like all TPAs do. But they're honest and ethical.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on May 27, 2021 at 9:32am

@Steve C is correct. As a JSA consultant, I have thousands of emails from JSA in my email archives going back 11 years. Not one has the BBB logo in their email signatures. Fake complaint and total fake news intended to maliciously disparage.

This is what scammers and crooks do -- make up fake complaints at various sites that allow them to do it anonymously just to dirty up legit authenticators. Then when someone questions their offerings, the scammers and crooks point to the fake complaints they created to "prove" the TPAs are incompetent.

Certainly no TPA is perfect and there is room for legitimate criticism, but many of the complaints you see online are malicious fabrications.

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Permalink Reply by bernard howard on May 27, 2021 at 10:40pm

steve Z--the bbb only accepts comments from people who can demonstrate that they ordered something from the seller.................the bbb is NOT rip-off report nor pissed consumer....................one has to give their own home address ,email address ,etc and the bbb will check it out........i know personally as i have written both positive and negative reviews on the bbb site.................the complainer may have been vindictive BUT HE /SHE IS NOT a scammer or a crook as he really had to purchase something and then have JSA check it out,,,,,,the same thing goes for ebay (and maybe amazon) -one cannot write a negative or positive review unless you purchase something from the seller...steve Z, please note that i am not a dealer and along with many people on this site ,we feel that THIRD PARTY AUTHENTICATION SHOULD not be held in high esteem.

These companies look for new ways to rake in cash more aggressively, and I can't think of many services out there where you can get away with cutting corners like you can in the autograph authentication business. And when it happens, you're left with an item certified by a company with a now dubious reputation.

One has no idea what effort (if any) was put into their service. If you go into an auto shop and pay for new tires, odds are you'll notice if they didn't bother to put them on. If you spend a few thousand on a brand new roof and it's leaking the next night, you can go straight back to the business with a tangible grievance. With an autograph authenticator, do they ever have to respond to bad authentications (authenticating forgeries or failing authentic examples) or shoddy certificates with botched info? If someone pays hundred of dollars for a forgery with a Third Party Authenticator sticker on it years later, is there absolutely any way they can make it right? Do they care? Do they stand by their product? Refunds, lifetime guarantees, anything? It is always an OPINION !!!!!! It seems to me they really don't have to DO much other than render an opinion. They don't have to do a thing to back up their product after the fact. How many companies, big or small, can get away with that and expect to survive.

I ASSURE YOU THAT IF A POLL WAS TAKEN ON THIS SITE, A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF MEMBERS WOULD AGREE WITH ME AND ERIC KEITH LONGO.