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Permalink Reply by Steve on February 19, 2016 at 10:33pm

By the way, if I were selling signed Mantle Williams DiMaggio HOF cards for several thousand dollars (about $3000 over the fair market price), I would be sure to have some very nice up close, clear photo's. Poor quality photo's are another tell.

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Permalink Reply by CJCollector on February 20, 2016 at 5:28am

Not a very convincing reply, MG.

Fuzzy and uncropped photos with $3,500.00 price tags?

 

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Permalink Reply by Steve on February 19, 2016 at 10:30pm

Question for you Mr. Millionaire. How come on your site under about us, it lists staff but no names are listed? Coming soon, yeah right!

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on February 19, 2016 at 11:16pm

Steve,

Here's a link to their Facebook page. There are a few shots of Millionaire Gallery show and convention displays. Why don't you take a look and see if this place looks similar to what you saw at Barrett Jackson.

https://www.facebook.com/millionairegallery/

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Permalink Reply by Paul on February 20, 2016 at 12:17am

This bloke's a blow ass.

The loyal members have called it.

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on February 20, 2016 at 4:39am

Following this discussion is making me sick at my stomach. I believe the members on this site have exposed another dishonest seller. This is why honest sellers struggle to compete. Shame on you, MG!

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Permalink Reply by KarlKeaton on February 20, 2016 at 4:46am

One issue that I think is crucial is this matter of 'qualifications' ('Qualified Forensic Examiner' for example) when it comes to autograph authentication. I remember that case against Frank Caiazzo where Frank was pushing his opinion based upon genuine long term experience with Beatles handwriting and the other side were claiming that they had forensic qualifications (which I am sure they did) and were therefore more qualified to decide upon an item's authenticity.

IMO that's a dangerous situation for this hobby in a society set up on so many levels to respect and defer to individuals who are 'qualified'.

Of course most people who understand the hobby realise that direct experience with the signatures being authenticated is the best qualification an authenticator can have but it cannot be 100% reliable in all cases so it does just come down to opinion.

My fear is that if a legal precedent is ever set that sides with 'Forensic' qualifications over experience in the case of autographs then those with such forensic qualifications will be able to trump the opinions of the real experts.

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Permalink Reply by Pete Bendu on February 20, 2016 at 4:51am

Even if something like this were to happen, it would only be the sheep that follow along. Serious collectors will know who to talk to. 

In the long run... educated buyers will be buying this stuff someday, and will laugh at those that have Forensic Documentation. 

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on February 20, 2016 at 5:04am

There are more sheep than shepherds. Without the sheep the shepherd has no job. The average collector does not have the time nor desire to have to deeply investigate each and every autograph before they buy. This shadow of doubt and dishonesty is a cancer that affects everyone but, in my opinion, hurts the honest people the most. 

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Permalink Reply by sling on February 20, 2016 at 11:51am

I m not so sure Morales and others represent true FBI type forensic handwriting experts (scientific analysis of handwriting, ink, paper, digital analyisis  etc,). These things have value as do expert opinion based on years of study of perhaps one band, a few actors, and so on. ha d as from this web site.

Yeah,  the forensic and/or expert approaches are each valid if done correctly and both should verify each other (if of course there is enough information to draw a conclusion).

Morales was no forensic expert -if he has a degree in forensics, it came from the back of a match book ad.

Problem the FBI faces is they are looking at handwriting and signatures from people who are not famous, no one is and expert in  handwriting of potential criminals, and their experts have to become knowledgeable about signatures they have only just seen and also there may few exemplars to go with.

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Permalink Reply by KarlKeaton on February 20, 2016 at 5:06am

But there might be enough sheep to make it profitable for the 'qualified' authenticators and that might degrade the industry if they were selling forgeries. If a legal precedent was set towards forensic qualifications then it might swing any following legal cases based upon the one that set the precedent(I'm not sure how case history works in the USA).

I guess there would be nothing to stop the experience based authenticators getting forensic qualifications too! (-:

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Permalink Reply by Mike T on February 20, 2016 at 7:23am

It would never happen, people that throw around this "court certified" nonsense have no idea how court actually works. You dont have to be certified as anything to testify as an expert in a court case. No class or certificate will make you "better" than someone else with a proven track record as an expert.

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